Brexit
- Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
24 January 2017 15:03323830government don't do simple bob. - 24 January 2017 15:11323831The best bit for me is Ms Sturgeon jumping up and down because devolved assemblies do not get a say, despite MPs from Scotland, Wales and Ulster being more than fairly represented in the Commons.
- Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,796
24 January 2017 15:28323832D Little wrote:Parliament voted to give us a referendum, very few will vote against the outcome.
All will depend on whether they have scruples (do not laugh) also what the whips order them to do and more localised do they want to get re-elected.
I think if it is a national referendum (like Brexit) the result should become law unlike now where parliament could legally go against the will of the people.howard mcsweeney1 likes this-----------------------------------------------------------------------
I try to be neutral and polite but it is hard and getting even more difficult at times.
------------------------------------------------------------------- - 24 January 2017 15:48323833D Little wrote:Parliament voted to give us a referendum, very few will vote against the outcome.
Parliament will have to vote on the Article 50 Bill not whether it is invoked.howard mcsweeney1 likes thisJack of Hearts - 24 January 2017 21:38323865Jack Heart wrote:Parliament will have to vote on the Article 50 Bill not whether it is invoked.
Evoked, Mr Heart. It's unclear whether God is a Brexiteer and therefore we might need to refrain from 'invoking'.Guest 1266 likes thisJust because you don't take an interest in politics doesn't mean that politics won't take an interest in you. PERICLES. - 24 January 2017 23:37323872It seems I was wrong, the SNP, SDLP, Lib Dems and 20 or so Labour MPs will vote against it as well as Ken Clarke. There will be a massive najority, what a waste of time, money and energy.
No wonder trust in parliament is at an all time low. - Ross Miller
- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
- Posts: 3,695
25 January 2017 00:36323875The majority of those MPs who have publicly stated that they will vote against legislation to commence the exit of the UK from the Eu represent constituencies where the majority voted to remain, therefore they are rightly representing the will of their constituents - just saying :-)"Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die today." - James Dean
"Being deeply loved by someone gives you strength,
While loving someone deeply gives you courage" - Laozi - 25 January 2017 09:21323879Not often I agree with David Lammy but to be on the wrong side of the prevailing wisdom on current political issues means facing a cauldron of hate. Yesterday the Daily Mail website put photos up of the judges in the Brexit case along with how they voted with the intention of putting them in the firing line of social media bile along with Gina Millar.
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices - Captain Haddock
- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 7,921
25 January 2017 10:00323881howard mcsweeney1 wrote:to be on the wrong side of the prevailing wisdom on current political issues means facing a cauldron of hate.
Thank you for your kind thoughts Howard!
howard mcsweeney1 likes this"Shall we go, you and I, while we can? Through the transitive nightfall of diamonds" - Button
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 22 Jul 2016
- Posts: 3,027
26 January 2017 12:40323923This is Great Britain controlling her border,
Leaving the Czech and the Lisbon order,
Goodbye Single Market, farewell ECJ,
Tata Customs union, vows Mrs T May,
Pulling up drawbridge, a watershed time:
We could all be doomed or we could be just fine.
Triggering 50 before we’re much older
Dishing out Brussels a proper cold shoulder,
A gadarene train on a bufferless track
To frictionless exit and no looking back.
Leaves and Remains are full of reproaches
Arguing still about slogans on coaches.
MPs dare not turn her course
They search for clues with fingers crossed.
Until at last the vote’s enforced -
Richer or poorer.. we’re getting divorced!
Norway - no thanks! Transfer of banks
Oh such a pity says Whittington’s city
24 months for negotiations
To clear out laws and forge relations,
And bring back Customs declarations
For all our trade with all the nations
And slam the door on net migration.
Pound in your pocket - launched like a rocket.
Markets emerging, confidence surging,
Betters who say we’re the place to enlarge in
Betters on duties absorbed in the margin,
Betters that industry has what it takes
If it gets just a smidgen of off-shore tax breaks.
Jabberwok pundits of every hue,
The purple, the yellow, the red and the blue,
Repeating convictions of what life will be
In a green hopeful land in its own azure sea
Psychic economists, the ‘playing it long’
The die is now cast, so what can go wrong?Bob Whysman likes this(Not my real name.) - Bob Whysman
- Registered: 23 Aug 2013
- Posts: 1,932
26 January 2017 14:16323926Nothing dear Button your verse could be legit,
Although to some other poor souls Brexit is sh*t,
It means to succeed they may have to work harder,
To provide beer in their belly and food in the larder,
You see for too long they have enjoyed a soft life,
With benefits unearned and for leisure just strife,
Run down the country, withdraw labour, just strike,
My advice for those that oppose it? "Get on your bike."
Button likes thisDo nothing and nothing happens. - Button
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 22 Jul 2016
- Posts: 3,027
26 January 2017 14:23323927Very good - and very fast, dammit!
(Not my real name.) - 27 January 2017 22:32323988Impressive verse and couplets noted
You forum typers are laureate devoted
But have you considered the problem of May?
The submarine PM that's (mis)leading the way
When will we have a tangible solution
to the Brexit story, the EU abultion?
Do we really believe in the PM's cabinet?
They defile our NHS: they're literally stabbing it
and ripping the heart out of real financing
whilst charlatan Ed Balls is on Strictly Come Dancing
and claiming that Labour are not the party of the people
acting as though he's God's voice beneath the steeple
It is time to stand firm and show politicians who's boss
and reward those wrong-'un 1%ers with constituency seat loss.
If we do not rally round and believe in honest politics
we end up with the status-quo parliament - a nothing yardstick
Yes - I'm talking of voting for Jeremy Corbyn
If we want to reform it's time to be all in.Button, howard mcsweeney1 and Captain Haddock like thisJust because you don't take an interest in politics doesn't mean that politics won't take an interest in you. PERICLES. - Button
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 22 Jul 2016
- Posts: 3,027
28 January 2017 10:30323992A pox on both their houses!
Veer red you say,
But is blue right?
May, we decide who's clear of sight
And who is deluded.Guest 1881 and howard mcsweeney1 like this(Not my real name.) - 28 January 2017 12:52323996Dear Button, You reference the Bard's Romeo, Juliet
Sublime couplet beauty but then there's the NHS roulette
We know that the Tories are desperate to privatise
So chronically under-fund to get waiting lists to rise
And so start a dialogue of the neo-liberal persuasion
Serenading the corporate fat-cats known for tax-evasion
They get OUR property, they get OUR funding
Do they get OUR blessing? Am I tub-thumping?
So who is deluded? We live with fake news
Can we believe Ms Kuessberg or what tabloids' spews
A neo-liberal plague upon two houses noted
Commons and Lords largely sell-off devoted
We don't have to fight like Mercutio or Tybalt
but we do have to rise up in mighty revolt.
What light from yonder PM's window breaks?
It's lies and darkness from neo-liberal fakes.Just because you don't take an interest in politics doesn't mean that politics won't take an interest in you. PERICLES. - Captain Haddock
- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 7,921
28 January 2017 13:12323998Competition in verse! Surely it's not too hard?
For only last night, someone told me 'You're Bard'.
Will the man in the manse, beat the man in the mansion?
He's good on his rhymes. Am I better on scansion?
Will we feud with pentameter? emphasis? trochee?
Will his erudite wit beat my humour (more low key)?
Will we keep to the subject? (unusual in Forum)
Or get ourselves barred, for lack of decorum?
Enough of this ranting, the challenge is put,
To the seafront with notepad, the game is afoot.
(By the way, I full know, 'fore you choke in you chalice,
That Bishops live not in manse but in palace.
I assure you that I was not about dissing your station
Pleading poetic license plus alliteration)
Bob Whysman, Button, howard mcsweeney1 and 1 more like thisBob Whysman, Button, howard mcsweeney1 and Guest 1881 like this"Shall we go, you and I, while we can? Through the transitive nightfall of diamonds" - 28 January 2017 14:46324001A noble attempt from one more kithed to a sea-shanty
The Capt'n enters the fray and ups the ante
He will allow the forum poetic free verse?
or enforce dactylic hexameter or iambic curse.
Time will tell if McSweeney or Haddock
Sansum, Button or us other mad lot
Conform to this forum's just regulations
Or be subjected to secular excommunications
And to finish my ditty , noting alliterative class
I finish by finding flimsily thin alliterative ass(onance).Button and howard mcsweeney1 like thisJust because you don't take an interest in politics doesn't mean that politics won't take an interest in you. PERICLES. - Bob Whysman
- Registered: 23 Aug 2013
- Posts: 1,932
29 January 2017 15:13324036A Dover forum thread laden with humour?
The Bishop is pukka? That's just a rumour,
Inebriated he may be, on communion wine,
But his offerings in verse are still full of rhyme.
Gulp down the left over communion wine if you must,
But whoa, spare the dictionary or our craniums will bust!
We're mostly simple souls with a penchant to tease,
So compete if you must but keep it simple please!
Your views on politicians are some of the best,
And as for the NHS with a future, give it a rest,
Privatisation is the chosen route, it's future is planned,
For the British, not immigrants, free access is banned.
Captains sailing the high seas are known for their pluck,
Old Saltys postings reflect character and sometimes a ruck,
So I conclude, moderated bingeing for simplicity's best,
Preserve the sanity of this peasant, please give humongous a rest!
Guest 1881 and howard mcsweeney1 like thisDo nothing and nothing happens. - 29 January 2017 18:01324052A more down to earth view on why someone voted leave.
http://news.sky.com/story/sky-views-the-real-reason-for-the-leave-vote-10747229 - Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,856
29 January 2017 21:03324061Its wrong to re run the whole thing and the majority vote should continue in parliament to do otherwise would be wrongALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS
