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Keith Sansum1 wrote:there is a simple explanation 339came out lots of times so I deleted some and left the one post simples,,,,
That doesn't explain #342
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Jan Higgins
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So Juncker expects us to bail out the EU or to substantially help with all its financial problems even though we will no longer be a member and get nothing in return.
Just one question how can he force us to pay whatever daft figure he thinks of.
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John Buckley
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He can't force us of course Jan, but he's probably relying on the fact that whatever the situation he knows that we have a track record, second to none, of dishing the dosh to the EU kitty when asked. He may well be relying on the small print somewhere to justify this farce, but no doubt we'll pay up instead of telling him to stick it which we should do of course. Unfortunately, over the years the EU have got used to milking us left right and centre. Remember Blair literally giving away our annual "rebate" of six billion quid and getting bugger all in return ( apart from himself getting a big slap on the back from the EU commissioners! ).
More recently we had Cameron ( thank God he's gone! ) stating publicly that we would not pay "a penny more" into the EU budget and a few months later coughing up!
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Courtesy of Mook News.
Boris Johnson has identified the reserving of sunloungers as a top priority in Brexit negotiations, it has been announced.
With Theresa May set to trigger Article 50 within six weeks, the Foreign Secretary attention is now focusing on the terms of Britain exiting the EU.
Under the Sunbathers’ Rights Regulations, Germany currently has a right to reserve up to 40% of sunloungers in any European resort, the UK second with up to 15% and Luxembourg being last in the EU with a paltry 0.1%.
“The Germans have been putting their towels on prime sunloungers for too long,” said Johnson.
“We won’t stand by and give up our sunbathing rights.”
Angela Merkel commented that she felt that Johnson was overstating the issue.
“I’m not sure if Boris has ever seen the sun, so he is hardly the right person to be dealing with this point.”
Meanwhile, Nigel Farage was reportedly leading a group of pasty holidaymakers from Newcastle and Glasgow to protest in Brussels.
“Spanish sunloungers for British people!” exclaimed the former UKIP leader.
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A lot of farmers are concerned over finding staff to do seasonal work after Brexit but I don't see a problem as until a few years ago there was a scheme whereby temporary work permits were issued to migrant workers. This got discontinued because there was no need for it once free movement came in but wouldn't be difficult to bring it back.
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howard mcsweeney1 wrote:A lot of farmers are concerned over finding staff to do seasonal work after Brexit but I don't see a problem as until a few years ago there was a scheme whereby temporary work permits were issued to migrant workers. This got discontinued because there was no need for it once free movement came in but wouldn't be difficult to bring it back.
Here you go Howard.
https://www.gov.uk/government/speeches/seasonal-agricultural-workers-scheme-and-the-food-processing-sectors-based-scheme"Shall we go, you and I, while we can? Through the transitive nightfall of diamonds"
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Circumstances have changed since that report which seems to be more about careers in the agricultural sector. In the parts of the country where seasonal farm workers are needed unemployment is very low and nobody is going to leave a full time job to take up temporary work.
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? Don't understand your answer Howard.
The statement was about the end of the SAWS scheme which replaced the previous VOLAG scheme.
In essence, we used to allow in tens of thousands of temporary workers to pick fruit/veg outside the work permit system. (Much the same as UK citizens used to go abroad to pick grapes). Many were from Eastern Europe. They came here. Did the work. They buggered off back home. Sorted.
With the accession of Eastern European countries and free movement of labour under Treaty of Rome. They now come here. Bring their families with them. Demand housing/schooling. When seasonal work finishes claim unemployment benefit. Don't bugger off back home.
Post Brexit there is no reason a new SAWS/VOLAG system could be set up.
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Button
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No need; despite Mr Elphicke's sterling efforts, unemployment in the district is still around the 1600 mark...
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We already have enough beggars and freeloaders from some parts of the EU we certainly do not want more. Those who have jobs are not a problem and should be made welcome.
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I see that "Sir" John Major ( what did he actually do to be awarded a knighthood? ) has raised his ugly face once again in order to warn us of the "historic mistake" we have apparently made in voting to leave the old pals act euro club due to us thickos being "misled" etc.
I have news for him, I, along with millions of others certainly haven't been misled about anything concerning the EU.
Yes, in the future, there may well be a few problems along the way, nobody has ever implied otherwise, but in the long run to quit this expensive, controlling and failing project will be the best thing for the U.K. and it's people.
Major is doing us no favours in talking this country down and seems somewhat pleased that in doing so the other EU member states may well have the upper hand when negotiations begin in earnest.
Negativity breeds negativity and his unpatriotic comments are not needed at this particular time.
The sooner he gets back to his cricket or crawls back under his stone together with his Euro mate Blair the better for us all!
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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That name rings a bell, Maastricht Treaty and Black Wednesday spring to mind so I don't think we should pay much heed to his views. One of his old mates Lord Heseltine who very rarely visits the House of Lords is now up in arms trying to scupper Article 50 plans, not much to add to that.
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" crawls back under his stone"
And that goes for all the other politicians past and present who choose to defy the result of that referendum and the will of the majority who voted to leave.
This country's population has the backbone to survive adversity as shown by winning two World Wars also recovering afterwards without the help that Germany received.
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Button- Location: Dover
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Er, which country received the most Marshall Plan aid after WWII?
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The Germans wisely spent their money post war on investing in rebuilding and modernising their industry.
We chose to provide false teeth and spectacles for people who are mostly now dead.
Fact.
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