SWWood- Location: Dover
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Jan Higgins wrote:Is it my far to simple logic to think that this troublesome border could be moved to the ports or airfields to cover the imports and exports problem.
Even with the Irish problem sorted I guess the Remainers would then find something else to try and F things up.
Good luck getting the Northern Ireland's Unionists to agree to that plan. A border between N. Ireland and the rest of the UK isn't going to be popular with them. I guess you haven't really paid much attention to the sensitivities of the Irish Border issues.
The Northern Ireland problems were completely foreseeable but never given the attention it deserved pre-referendum. Since then, Brexiteers tried ignoring, denying and then downplaying the issue, but it hasn't gone away. That Brexiteers now try to blame Remainers for the problems they have caused is astonishing, but all too predictable.
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
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strange brexiters can remember ww2 but cant remember the troubled years in Ireland.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
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How can anyone ignore the "sensitivities of the Irish Border issues" it has been on the news enough. If the fanatics on both sides of the border were to think what was best for the majority over there rather than concentrating on past history there would probably be no problem.
As far as I am concerned the leprechaun lovers and the haggis lovers of both nations are more trouble than they are worth to the rest of the UK.
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(Not my real name.)
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Courtesy of the Telegraph.
Britain must pay the £39 billion Brexit bill even if it leaves the EU without a deal, the European Commission has warned. Britain agreed to pay the financial settlement to the EU, which include EU Budget payments up to 2020, to cover its liabilities to the bloc and unlock talks over the future relationship.
As it released a new set of no deal Brexit plans in Brussels on Wednesday, the commission said, "all commitments taken by the 28 Member States should be honoured by the 28 Member States."
"This is also true in a “no-deal” scenario, where the UK would be expected to continue to honour all commitments made during EU membership.”
All after me now, Oh yes we will, Oh no we won't.
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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I am no no fan of Nigel Farage but it is good to see him telling those two 'enemies' on his right a polite telling off for their attitude.
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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that's not a telling off,thats more like a nf rant. where my headache pills betty.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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No win situation, if they do stockpile and a deal is done the company will be left with goods that are short dated and if they don't stockpile and run short all hell will break loose.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jan/31/trauma-packs-being-stockpiled-in-uk-over-fears-of-no-deal-brexitJan Higgins- Location: Dover
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Items like these quoted surely have a fairly long shelf life, more like poor management for items not to already be in stock in this country, scaremongering again.
"At the time of the 2017 bombing of the Manchester arena, in which 23 people died, the high number of casualties of both adults and children required Johnson & Johnson to swiftly fly in additional packs from Belgium containing plates, wires, cables, nails and screws for the stabilising of joints.
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Captain Haddock
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Absolute rubbish. ALL local Health Authorities are (unfortunately) prepared for such a events. IF Manchester were short Liverpool, Sheffield, Leeds etc would have supplied. Such happenings are regularly 'played out by Emergency Services.
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
PatrickS
- Location: Marine Parade, Dover
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- Posts: 448
There was a Portuguese TV crew filming in the Market Square this afternoon. Apparently about BREXIT (whatever that is!)
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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pat, so you lost the plot to. lol
Neil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
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I think that the way through this is to have a time limit on the backstop, but suitably long enough to offer reassurance - say 10 years. Of course, the ERG would be up in arms, but if, as everybody proclaims, there is 'technology' to address this, then one would like to think it could be rolled out within 10 years (even by the UK's appalling standards in IT projects!)
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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The PM has now returned to the magic money tree this time to bribe Labour MPs with money to spend in their deprived constituencies in return for their votes on her deal. Jezza has told them not to accept the money but I can't see how they can refuse.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Courtesy of the Times.
Labour MPs were called “cowards and facilitators” by a party colleague yesterday for backing Theresa May’s Brexit deal after her promise of extra cash for deprived areas. owning Street denied that the plan, revealed by The Times, amounted to “cash for votes”. However, it confirmed a “programme of national renewal post-Brexit” and the prime minister’s spokesman said that she had “a long-standing commitment” to tackling inequality between communities. This would be done, the spokesman said, by “rebuilding and reconnecting communities, driving prosperity and unleashing the potential of hard-working people. No community should feel that they are left behind.”
John Mann, the Labour MP for Bassetlaw, has held extensive talks with Mrs May and others in recent days and has made clear that he wants to see a substantial uplift. “Show us the money. A fund of sufficient size to transform our communities. Our areas voted Leave and it is time that we had the investment we need,” Mr Mann tweeted. Later he denied trading his vote for extra cash for his constituency. Colleagues who backed a second referendum expressed fury. David Lammy, MP for Tottenham, said history would be brutal to the “cowards and facilitators” who succumbed to Mrs May’s charm offensive. Wes Streeting, the MP for Illford North, said: “For Labour MPs to align themselves with the likes of Boris Johnson, Iain Duncan Smith and Priti Patel on Brexit would be a mistake that would rank alongside Ramsay MacDonald’s 1931 creation of a national government. It would never be forgiven and never be forgivable.”
Jeremy Corbyn was more measured, fuelling suspicion that he is privately content for Mrs May’s deal to pass with help from a small number of his MPs. He said MPs should always “demand appropriate resources for their constituencies”, though the best way to get them was to push for a Labour government. “Many, particularly from mining areas, have been disgracefully treated by this Tory government and indeed previous ones — ever since the miners’ strike in the 1980s,” he said. “Clearly, there has to be investment in those communities, but the Brexit plan doesn’t solve that any more than the government’s austerity programme is going to solve any of that.”
This morning Tom Watson, deputy Labour leader, described the offer as a bribe. “It would be wrong,” he told Breakfast on BBC One. “I don’t think any MP would take a bribe like that.” He emphasised that the prime minister needed to “come nearer” to Labour on a customs union, adding: “She’s not going to make progress unless she widens her base of support, which means she has to concede on some of the issues.”
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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easy money really, tell yes then vote her down after the money has gone into bank account then move it to another account so she cant take it back. lol
Guest 3065- Registered: 10 Jan 2019
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I love nigel farage he should be our prime minister he's not scared of the EU he tells them what's what he's actually backing a new party which he's going to be in I shall definitely vote for them
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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I don't know what the new party will be called but they claim to have 200 good quality candidates ready for next European elections so they clearly think we won't be leaving the EU next month.
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"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
