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- Location: Dover
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Ah, possibly not completely wrinkle-free then...
you cannot register to use transitional simplified procedures if you’re acting on behalf of a trader (for example you’re a freight forwarder) and
it doesn't say whether or not:
- a Safety and Security declaration is required
- ferry freight manifests are required
- all lorries are free to proceed upon arrival.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Looks good at first glance but one of the main problems has been that many have not bought or sold to third countries before and this applies across all member states. The simplified system helps our importers but it still depends on the businesses selling to them providing the right documentation for exporting to a third country.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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The PM now continues to run down the clock with the EU refusing to give a legally binding end date to the back stop.
Ross Miller
- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
- Posts: 3,698
Surely the point is that we can do what we like and "wave" all trucks through if we wish, however by the same token the EU is free to impose whatever conditions/requirements they choose on goods etc entering their territory.
Of course we are well aware of what these requirements and conditions are as we currently have to apply them to non EU goods entering or passing through the UK so why is this such a shock to everyone?
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Brian Dixon
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Ross Miller wrote:Surely the point is that we can do what we like and "wave" all trucks through if we wish, however by the same token the EU is free to impose whatever conditions/requirements they choose on goods etc entering their territory.
Of course we are well aware of what these requirements and conditions are as we currently have to apply them to non EU goods entering or passing through the UK so why is this such a shock to everyone?
As far as I know this is not a shock to anyone.
Neil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
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So, am I right in thinking even if this madness follows, and we throw open our borders despite wanting to take back control of them, then that actually ensures no queues at the French side? Won't Charlie's magical 'juxtaposed' border controls mean that if the French do not reciprocate (which they won't) it'll still be Dover with the queues?
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Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
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Nothing new in this, vehicles have always had spot checks with many simply waved through from long before the free movement came into being.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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A lighthearted take on the situation.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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BREAKING NEWS -A new head of our negotiating team.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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ok I get me coat on
Captain Haddock
- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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Neil Moors wrote: Won't Charlie's magical 'juxtaposed' border controls mean that if the French do not reciprocate (which they won't) it'll still be Dover with the queues?
I am not aware of anyone seriously talking about changes to the Treaty of Le Touquet which has been working in BOTH countries interest since 4 February 2003 and has nothing to do with 'our' Charlie.
Nor, as I've written before, can I see the French holding up 'stuff' at Dover which they have ordered/need just to mess us around which would just be stupid.
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Neil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
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I agree, Captain. From my experience with dealing with French negotiators (and to a greater extent, the Germans) they will simply apply the rules as they should be applied. If additional checks are needed, they will apply them; if not, they won't. I don't think they will deliberately mess us aout - but nor do I think they will do us any favours just because we might end up in a mess.
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Courtesy of the Telegraph
German business is seriously worried about the prospect of a no-deal Brexit. Scarcely a day passes without a new warning from business leaders. The car industry trade body, the VDA, says no deal could have “fatal” consequences, while the Federation of German Industry (BDI) says it would be a disaster that could cause a “massive crisis”. But, despite the alarm, so far German business has remained solidly behind the negotiating position of Angela Merkel and the EU-27. There is no sign of the carmakers pressuring the Chancellor to cave to British demands in order to safeguard their exports, as Brexiteers have long predicted. Rather, much of the German business community appears to view the likelihood of no deal as the result of British intransigence — and look to London, not Brussels or Berlin, to solve the impasse.
A chaotic Brexit is getting dangerously close. Businesses on both sides of the English Channel are hanging in the air. The priority must be to avoid a hard Brexit. British politics has to live up to this responsibility,” says Joachim Lang, BDI director-general. “The cohesion of the EU-27 is the top priority for the German industry. We support the EU's negotiating line. The ball is in London’s court.”
Despite its rejection by the House of Commons, Mr Lang describes Theresa May’s withdrawal agreement as “the best possible outcome of negotiations for both the EU and the UK” and rejects any attempt to renegoatiate it.
“The already ailing German-British trade figures show further uncertainty about the process is poison for the economy,” he says. There is no doubting the significance of the UK market for the German economy. Britain had a trade deficit with Germany of £21bn, out of a total trade volume of £134bn, in 2017. As Mr Lang says, Brexit is already having an effect. German exports to the UK fell by more than €1bn in 2017 compared with the previous year, and Britain, once Germany’s third-largest market, slipped to fifth place. But the consequences of a no-deal Brexit could be far more serious. In a worst case scenario, German exports to the UK could plunge by 57pc — some €44bn — according to a report by the respected IW Institute in Cologne last year.
Much of the trade between the two countries is interlinked — for instance in car parts — and there are fears a serious drop could have far-reaching effects for the entire EU economy. It is not only German industrial giants like the carmakers who will be affected. The consequences could be even more serious for the Mittelstand, the small- and medium-sized enterprises that make up the backbone of the German economy. “Long-term business relationships between companies from both countries are in danger from a no-deal-Brexit,” says Marc Tenbieg, managing director of the German Mittelstand Association (DMB). “German SMEs have built up intensive and trusting business relationships with British companies over many years on the basis of stable political and economic conditions. It’s detrimental for both countries if functioning market and trade structures are frivolously endangered by volatile political decisions.”
German exports to the UK fell by more than €1bn in 2017 compared with the previous year
But Mr Tenbieg also declines to blame Brussels: “The EU’s position has been consistent throughout the negotiations: a regulated Brexit was always the declared goal, but not at any price. The deal negotiated between Brussels and London was a good and solid basis. “The only thing you could hold against Berlin is that the risk of no-deal was ignored for too long. Now it seems that SMEs have to set up emergency plans within a few weeks. e adds: “Mrs May’s policy management appears very erratic: the details of the withdrawal agreement weren’t even known until November 2018. Dialogue with her MPs should have taken place much earlier. To us, it makes no sense that it didn’t, especially with such a narrow majority. Neither does the strategy of renegotiating after such a lengthy negotiation.”
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Latest news courtesy of the Times.
Theresa May fears that MPs will impose a softer Brexit next week after Jeremy Corbyn moved Labour’s position closer to that of Remain Tory rebels. The prime minister is in Brussels today to press for legally binding changes to ensure that the UK will not be trapped in the Irish backstop, a key demand from Brexiteers. Mr Corbyn’s surprise change of policy, including dropping a pledge to deliver the “exact same benefits” as membership of the European Union, will stiffen the EU’s resolve to hold out until next week’s parliamentary votes.
Brussels has repeatedly offered to address concerns about the backstop — the UK’s commitment to mirror EU customs and rules — if there is agreement for a softer Brexit. In a terse joint statement this afternoon, Mrs May and Jean-Claude Juncker described their talks as “robust but constructive”.The EU chief rejected a demand to reopen the Brexit deal but repeated a previous offer to beef up a commitment to speed talks on a trade deal after Brexit.
In a letter to Mrs May, Mr Corbyn said that the price of his backing a deal came in the form of five legally binding commitments:
• A permanent and comprehensive UK-wide customs union. This would include alignment with the union customs code, a common external tariff and an agreement on commercial policy that includes the UK having a say on future EU trade deals.
• Close alignment with the single market. This should be underpinned by shared institutions and obligations, with “clear arrangements” for dispute resolution.
• “Dynamic”, or constantly updated, alignment on rights and protections so that British standards keep pace with evolving standards across Europe as a minimum, “allowing the UK to lead the way”.
• Clear commitments on participation in EU agencies and funding programmes, including in areas such as the environment, education and industrial regulation.
• “Unambiguous” agreements on the detail of future security arrangements, including access to the European arrest warrant and shared databases.
Mr Corbyn ends the letter by suggesting further discussions with Mrs May on these proposals “with the aim of securing a sensible agreement that can win the support of parliament and bring the country together”. Nick Boles, the Conservative former minister who is leading efforts for a Norway-style deal, said: “This takes us a big step forward to a cross-party compromise.” Mrs May was forced to promise MPs another chance to vote on Brexit a week today to head off resignations from ministers determined to avoid a no-deal exit. Although the prime minster saw off attempts to wrest control from cabinet last week, Downing Street now fears that MPs will launch another attempt on February 14.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Another pointless trip to Brussels for the PM, I can only think she is doing some clothes shopping there.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47152035Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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More talk of what happens if Article 50 was extended but i'm sure the EU said that current UK MEPs would automatically keep their jobs rather than have elections here.
https://news.sky.com/story/nigel-farage-hints-at-becoming-leader-of-newly-recognised-brexit-party-11632003Guest 3065 likes this
Guest 3065- Registered: 10 Jan 2019
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I'm going to vote for the brexit party well done nige farage
