Brian Dixon
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reg, if your arm is that bad try putting some irish maggots in the wound.
Keith Sansum1
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Brian
He can't have a word with the union chaps
They were funding him
But looks like not for much longer
Then his problems worsen
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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still needs to speak to them to point them in the right direction keith
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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In your opinion
But , maybe the unions have got it right and your wrong?
Maybe, electing a second rate Tory party isn't for them either?
But , they providing the dosh at mo, but it is reducing and likely to reduce a lot more
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Button
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 22 Jul 2016
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I suppose a scenario in which Messrs Dixon and Sansum1 are both proved right would be a Labour win at the next GE, followed by 20+ years of legal action contesting/affirming the outcome.
(Not my real name.)
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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sTaying up for the next 24hrs to watch the U.s.a. and who gets in power,I go for Mr T
Weird Granny Slater
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Reginald Barrington wrote:...ridding the party of Corbyn and his supporters is the best chance for the party to rebuild and be in with a chance of winning an election.
Which is why I've signed the petition to reinstate corbyn:
https://r.ippl.es/corbyn/
Doesn't that display a good degree of political naivety, RB? Aside from the question as to whether such petitions actually achieve anything, what would be the point of
not replacing the currently in office New Labour mk2 with a currently in 'opposition' New Labour mk3? Think about all that new trim.
'Pass the cow dung, my dropsy's killing me' - Heraclitus
ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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This thread hardly reflects current circumstances. Conservative party in turmoil is more appropriate. Laughing Boy ignored SAGE advice on 21st September to take the opportunity of half term to apply a circuit breaker. He said it would be a disaster and that Starmer wanted to 'turn the lights out'. Cue U-turn number God knows what.
He reacted too late just as he did in March. It's not uncommon for people out of their depth in a given situation and under severe stress to repeat past mistakes. Now the 'libertarian' wing of his party are ready to vote against his plans and the new 'blue wall' MPs in the north are seriously wondering whether they will be re-elected under the leadership of a man whose whole life experience is one of a feckless buffoon.
His lockdown plans will only get through parliament tomorrow because of Labour support.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Dear Mr Hutstone must you talk a bout a man who is doing his best and calling him names is not right in my way of thinking. from day one of power the PM has not had it easy ,there is no person in the house that could do any better ,he is doing the best that anyone could do,well that the way I think.
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Thats a very good one sir
that might stop me
Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
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ray hutstone wrote:His lockdown plans will only get through parliament tomorrow because of Labour support.
Kind of proves my point in #348, don't you think? A thin fag paper between them.
There's a genuine chance that this self-induced catastrophe will collapse the two-party gangster system: the Tories because it's now evident that 'lockdowns' are irrational, destructive, political, and so far from being based on 'the science' as to be unrecognisable as such; and Labour because it's complicit. Everyone should know this by now; and if they don't, they have their heads irresponsibly in the sand and will pay dearly for their ignorance.
Thankfully, a few genuine conservatives in what's laughingly still called the 'Conservative Party' have belatedly come out from behind their sofas and opened the curtains. These will put the Tories and Labour to shame and can hold their heads high if they vote 'nay' to the darkness.
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Ray
Whilst its clear people have lost faith in all politicians , it's labour that will come off worse as people turn against them ..
The only good thing is all parties will have to reconnect with the electorate if they want the votes.
And the times of weighing in safe seats are very nearly thankfully gone.
We are in a position now where people have lost faith in the Govt
But also lost faith in the major opposition
This will result in people voting for smaller parties which will take labour votes
Or not voting at all , again mainly labour voters
Now do you we all agree labour won't get in for 5
General elections ?
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ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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Keith Sansum1 wrote:Ray
Whilst its clear people have lost faith in all politicians , it's labour that will come off worse as people turn against them ..
The only good thing is all parties will have to reconnect with the electorate if they want the votes.
And the times of weighing in safe seats are very nearly thankfully gone.
We are in a position now where people have lost faith in the Govt
But also lost faith in the major opposition
This will result in people voting for smaller parties which will take labour votes
Or not voting at all , again mainly labour voters
Now do you we all agree labour won't get in for 5
General elections ?
I'm not sure whether you're asking me or seeking general consensus in your final paragraph, Keith. If it's the former, then the answer is an emphatic 'no'. Quite apart from the demonstrable chutzpah of anyone believing the can predict the outcome of 20 years of future politics, my personal view is that this government's incompetence and blatant corruption in the handling of Covid-19 and the looming economic disaster that is Brexit will inevitably reduce their majority in 2024.
Whatever personal beef you may have against Labour locally doesn't alter the fact that they have a strong and charismatic leader who has already shown that he is more than a match for Johnson's buffoonery. Where all that will leave us, I don't know. If you believe you can predict with such certainty then maybe becoming one of Cummings' 'superforecasters' is the way to go. Either that or you can do my lottery selections for me.
Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
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ray hutstone wrote:a strong and charismatic leader
Yes, I recall Italy, Germany, the Soviet Union and China all had one of those. What could possibly go wrong?
This would be worrying if it weren't for that fact that the descriptors 'strong' and 'charismatic' have never been so woefully misapplied to a person in the long, sycophantic history of flattery. Unless it were by a Tory to de Pfeffel.
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Reginald Barrington
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Strong and charismatic? Now that is stretching the bounds of reality, a match for Boris, well that's hardly an achievement to be proud of!
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Jan Higgins
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Can I ask what is the point being made about Boris Johnson now being referred to on here as de Pheffel?
Is it simply because he is from a posh background resulting in some kind of inverted snobbery or jealousy?
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ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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Weird Granny Slater wrote:Yes, I recall Italy, Germany, the Soviet Union and China all had one of those. What could possibly go wrong?
This would be worrying if it weren't for that fact that the descriptors 'strong' and 'charismatic' have never been so woefully misapplied to a person in the long, sycophantic history of flattery. Unless it were by a Tory to de Pfeffel.
Crikey. I thought you'd flounced out. Have a happy lockdown and don't forget your face mask.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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not on your nelly keith, we will have one in less than 5 years
Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
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Jan Higgins wrote:Can I ask what is the point being made about Boris Johnson now being referred to on here as de Pheffel?
Is it simply because he is from a posh background resulting in some kind of inverted snobbery or jealousy?
Being on fiendly terms with the great leader, JH, I get to call him Al, as do all his friends and family. 'Boris' (middle name) is what he uses to win over the plebs. Not snobbery, downside up or otherwise. Just to debunk his cuddly, 'I'm-on-your-side' chuminess. He's on nobody's side but his own.
'Pass the cow dung, my dropsy's killing me' - Heraclitus
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