Neil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
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Labour needs to hold its nerve, stand back and watch the Tories make an almighty mess of Brexit. The UK public will soon turn if they see no improvement in their life post Brexit - and that's where Labour can make huge ground, by holding the Government to account.
Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
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Yes, NM, and if you look very carefully through the trees in Poulton Wood you'll see unicorns dancing cheek to cheek.
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Think labour out for at least 25 years
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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what world are you living in keith. more 3 years or less
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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As i pointed out oppostion in turmoil
25 years if they start a fightback today
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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yea of little faith keith.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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All explained in post on boris
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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keith, we all know boris is a knob head, once stamer clears out the corbanites the better.
Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
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FFS. The Conservatives aren't conservative; Labour isn't labour. The C's have taken L's ground, literally, metaphorically, and (to a large extent) ideologically. L is a bigger Liberal Democrat (which is neither liberal nor democratic) with a touch of Green (which isn't green) and rainbow thrown in. The C's are driving Blair's car; L is sitting in the back playing I-spy and gesturing this way and that; the others are in the boot. Look beyond the colours. Nothing is what it seems.
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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wgs i give up with you ks
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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All answered in another post on Boris
People just wont vote which will put boris back in
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ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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Weird Granny Slater wrote:FFS. The Conservatives aren't conservative; Labour isn't labour. The C's have taken L's ground, literally, metaphorically, and (to a large extent) ideologically. L is a bigger Liberal Democrat (which is neither liberal nor democratic) with a touch of Green (which isn't green) and rainbow thrown in. The C's are driving Blair's car; L is sitting in the back playing I-spy and gesturing this way and that; the others are in the boot. Look beyond the colours. Nothing is what it seems.
You don't sound at all feminine today.
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Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
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Odd. I'm not aware that taking an interest in political currents is aligned to any set of gender characteristics, let alone to any particular sex. I doubt the division between dull, unimaginative and conformist political people and inquisitive, vivacious and adventurous political people runs along sex or gender lines. In my experience I'd say the adventurous are adventurous in all areas of life, and the dull just dull. Wouldn't you agree, RH?
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ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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Weird Granny Slater wrote:Odd. I'm not aware that taking an interest in political currents is aligned to any set of gender characteristics, let alone to any particular sex. I doubt the division between dull, unimaginative and conformist political people and inquisitive, vivacious and adventurous political people runs along sex or gender lines. In my experience I'd say the adventurous are adventurous in all areas of life, and the dull just dull. Wouldn't you agree, RH?
Possibly but Pseud's Corner always cheers me up regardless.
Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
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Blimey, The Guardian AND Private Eye. Now that is radical.
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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"Shall we go, you and I, while we can? Through the transitive nightfall of diamonds"
Neil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
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Strong performance from Keir Starmer today in distancing himself from Jezza. Boris ended up looking silly with his (not even funny) scripted jokes.
One thing is fascinating, how desperate Boris is to get Keir to engage on Brexit and he just won’t do it. Very smart from Labour. Can’t win on Brexit here and now, so do engage in any way at all.
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Reginald Barrington- Location: Dover
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Neil Moors wrote:Strong performance from Keir Starmer today in distancing himself from Jezza. Boris ended up looking silly with his (not even funny) scripted jokes.
The 'Eeyore one was quite funny!'
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DFL- Registered: 21 Jul 2020
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Neil Moors wrote:Strong performance from Keir Starmer today in distancing himself from Jezza. Boris ended up looking silly with his (not even funny) scripted jokes.
One thing is fascinating, how desperate Boris is to get Keir to engage on Brexit and he just won’t do it. Very smart from Labour. Can’t win on Brexit here and now, so do engage in any way at all.
Saw this, it does make a lot of sense: Johnson can't debate, he is a bafoon, so they use their usual throw enough muck tactic/divide and rule:
Hitting back: Johnson’s strategy for dealing with Starmer has been interesting to watch over recent weeks, not least because you know it’s been focus-grouped within an inch of its life by No. 10. Johnson spent four consecutive weeks during their early encounters needling Starmer for his legal background and his supposedly “forensic” approach, before switching tack last month to start relentlessly accusing the Labour leader of “flip-flopping,” “yo-yoing,” “equivocating” and saying “one thing one week, and one thing another week.” Hansard reveals we’ve heard this kind of attack 16 times now from the PM, most memorably last week when he told Starmer he had “more briefs than Calvin Klein.” Someone, somewhere, is telling Downing Street this stuff is hitting home.
Methods of attack: Starmer, as we have seen, prefers to rely on stats, documents and the testimony to make his points for him. He’s quoted criticism from 14 different experts or groups over the 10 PMQs sessions; waved government data sheets around on five separate occasions; and quoted four international comparisons of corona performance.
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Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
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From the 'Boris' thread:
Neil Moors wrote:The antisemitism distraction is hopefully behind them...
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/jul/25/antisemitism-labour-warns-of-cash-crisis-as-cases-grow
Believe me, this one will just run and run... Karma for Starmer.
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