Weird Granny Slater
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You forget: the current bunch of fools were 'youth' once, too.
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Pablo- Registered: 21 Mar 2018
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Ross, if your theory is correct (that most people vote in their own narrow self-interest), then Jeremy Corbyn would have won the last election by a landslide, based on Labour’s manifesto. Or perhaps most people realised that it was undeliverable, i.e. Corbyn couldn’t be trusted to conjure up all the unicorns and free this and that which he had promised?
Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
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Ah, but if your theory is correct, P, then most people will now realise their mistrust was wasted energy: the unicorns have been delivered in truckloads.
'Pass the cow dung, my dropsy's killing me' - Heraclitus
Ross Miller
- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
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P I think it was more a case that JC couldnt/wouldnt explain how it was all going to be paid for and most people's first driver is their pocket
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Button
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- Registered: 22 Jul 2016
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Weird Granny Slater wrote:That all these fools have an alma mater doesn't fill me with hope about those about to get one.
Oh dear; and I hear PPE is popular this year.
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Keith Sansum1
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It's about do people have any more faith in labour than Tory
I think not
People won't vote do Tories will get back in
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Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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keith i like your negative postings on labour, keep it up they might just win with a big majority.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Reality Brian
But you go on dreaming
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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keith, we will see who is right in the next 3 years.
Pablo- Registered: 21 Mar 2018
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Brian, the next election will be May 2024.
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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pablo, yeah ok maybe sooner,.
Pablo- Registered: 21 Mar 2018
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Brian the Tories have a majority of 78. So nearly 40 blue seats have to turn red to make an early GE even a remote possibility. I don’t think there have ever been that many by-elections in a single parliament.
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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theres allways a first time pablo.
Neil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
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One thing I do predict, Boris won't be leader of the Conservative party at the next election. I think he served a purpose as the useful idiot that got Brexit done (just as Brexit served as the vehicle to get him the job), but I do not see how his MPs will put up with this level of incompetence/laziness the closer in gets to election time.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Neil
On the last part we probably agree.
Although some of the public like his style? That should not be overlooked .
But Tories have a habit of dislodging a leader once they are done with his services
Maggie recalls that. As do others .
As has been highlighted the main opposition was humiliated at the last election and with the Tories majority of over 80 that's going to take some overturning.
Put with this seats they should be winning a lot more of such as seats in Scotland, and Wales
All ends up with a Tory majority again
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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keith i do despair with you, labour will close that gap and win the next election with 40 plus seats in there favor.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Brian I don't despair with you
I'm happy you have an opinion
For you to achieve those dizzy heights as I said above they have to hold the seats they have , look at Canterbury that's not guaranteed in many seats
Even if they do they then have to win seats back in Scotland , Wales and up Norf.
All seems unlikely to me
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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it depends how many people boris and his mates pi55 of, between now and the next election
Guest 3701- Registered: 19 Jul 2020
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I think it remains an uphill struggle for Labour and for the area they need to put forward a high quality candidate. But the current government is not a good government. Their time will come. Perhaps sooner than would normally be expected. Either way, Labour must sort themselves first and foremost and that is not an easy task.
Captain Haddock
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Really don't see much hope for Labour just now. No USP.
On Corvid no great difference in approach other than would have done some stuff either later or earlier or both.
Starmer has taken the minority view in the culture wars and photo of him 'taking the knee' will come back to haunt him.
Apparently Extinction Rebellion are now marching to support Black Lives Matter. Suprise, suprise.
Draw a Venn Diagram and there's a huge overlap. Trotsky's permanent revolution and I'll throw in the Animal 'Rights' veggie-Nazis with them.
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