17 August 2010
12:1865866Sid
Its far from a done deal so public interest is sought.
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Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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17 August 2010
12:2465868Sid you do not give up do you on having ago at me,I will like all the times you have done it before,just let it go over my head.
But we will talk about it when we meet up with each other,I like to talk face to face so I see the white of their eyes.But till then please carry on if you must and thank you for your post.
17 August 2010
12:4865874Vic, not aware of having a go at you in this thread mate. Elsewhere it's just banter designed to get a reaction, nothing personal and certainly don't mean to offend.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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17 August 2010
13:2665878Read your post 19 again put yourself in my shoes and that is how it came over and just sometimes it gets to me as this did.
Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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17 August 2010
13:4765884Be it £1 or £1billion, if it beneficial to the district why shouldn't it happen ?
The charter is 400 years old and irrelevent in todays commercial market....
Been nice knowing you :)
Guest 703- Registered: 30 Jul 2010
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17 August 2010
14:2465895Agree with you there Paul, the port has to be fit for the commercial world that exists.
One factor I haven't heard much discussion about is the demographic profile of the workers. I'm sure that when the charter was set up 400 years ago all of the ship and port workers were local, they left their homes and walked to work. Now the catchment area for dock and port employees is much wider, so many of them do not have Charlie Elphicke as their MP and would have no idea where Dover Town Council offices are - and of course are earning their salary here and spending it elsewhere.
17 August 2010
17:0565924Vic, you are not part of DTC anymore, perhaps if you were some of the games currently being played would be more public. There is a nasty entity within, proving that leopards don't change their spots. If the public knew, and I cannot say more, there would be uproar and a call for change. But they won't find out and so the games will continue. It is disgraceful.
Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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17 August 2010
17:4865937Thanks Ray, the charter was drawn up when the harbour was the size of Wellington Dock and a relatively small trading port (look at old images of London to see where the major activity was!).
What we have now is a massive ex-Admiralty Harbour with 16 million (or whatever it is) people coming through. It does need serious investment as even though the ferry firms may be 'suffering' the volume of traffic is still rising.
Give it a few months and we get the bad weather and operation stack coming in, we will all be shouting that something should done !!!
Been nice knowing you :)
Guest 673- Registered: 16 Jun 2008
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17 August 2010
18:3365943It looks like it is a total waste of time to keep on pointing out that the mediaeval charter has no relevance whatsoever to the operation of the port in the 21st century but, seeing that poor old Dovorians love to think that it has, here is some proof to keep you all happy.
This is a screen dump of one of the computer terminals in the check-in plaza in the Eastern Docks. It is a requirement that all DHB personnel are fluent in mediaeval Latin, as per the ancient charter, in order to operate these workstations.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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17 August 2010
18:3465944sid
on another thread you praised the town council to the rafters, on this one you stick the knife in, what is the truth?
Guest 663- Registered: 20 Mar 2008
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17 August 2010
19:0765949We seem to be damed if we do and damed if we dont as a town councillor,I am playing no games as Sid seems to think will be there and have the curiosity to listen to what the MP has to say,it is down to members of the public if they wish to be there.
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17 August 2010
20:0365956Jan the town council is doing the right thing by having that meeting, And I will be there.
18 August 2010
01:4365981The malevolent influence wasn't prevalent within DTC during my time with DCAL, hence I am able to praise their superb efforts.
18 August 2010
16:5366023I have just been informed that Bob Goldfield will be present and will be permitted to respond to Charlies comments - unmissable perhaps? However Full public consultation is DTC principle as demonstrated elsewhere and this meeting will perhaps lead on to that given more time. At present we want to listen to the principals.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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18 August 2010
16:5866024If port privatisation is proceeding, it is proof that Democracy means nothing in Britain!
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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18 August 2010
16:5966025And that is no good!
Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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18 August 2010
17:2266028The majority of people in the Dover District are probably FOR the privatisation, it's just a few vocal people that are against it.....
Been nice knowing you :)
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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18 August 2010
17:4766030You are wrong Paul you will fine it hard to get 100 people for, the sell of the port,in the whole of East Kent let alone Dover.
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18 August 2010
18:0566031I would like to take up that challenge, but I don't have a spare 5 minutes to do it at the moment......
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Jan Higgins
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18 August 2010
18:1666038I would like to know what benefit the 'town' will get from the sale, if any.
From what I understand the 'town' gets very little benefit from DHB because they have to spend their profits in the harbour/sea area.
Employment is the only benefit that I can think of.
I am not a political being so I may have got my facts entirely wrong.
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