Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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16 October 2008
16:407614Just to tell you all that AS FROM TODAY I am going to stand as a true Independent at the next European Elections on the 04.06.09.again I will have to find my own funding that means more hrs at work when my back is better.
I remain yours faithfully VIC Matcham
Guest 643- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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16 October 2008
17:347617There's always a little truth behind every "Just kidding", a little emotion behind every "I don't care" and a little pain behind every "I'm ok".
Brian Dixon
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16 October 2008
17:447618Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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16 October 2008
17:487619Vic, do you really know what you are saying.
The Euro Constituency comprises of 6,087,103 electors (at last election) - Yes thats over 6 million.
It stretches from Thanet down to the Isle of Wight and up to Watford cutting out London.
There are 10 candidates to be elected on the Party List system.
Imagine the organisation and cost of leaflet distribution alone.
You will just make a fool of yourself, a sideshow. Dont do that to yourself.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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16 October 2008
19:087627yes i agree with barry here vic its a big undertaking to take on your own.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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16 October 2008
19:267631none of that will bother vic, he has never leafletted.
mind you, i bet his knuckles will be sore after banging on 6 million doors.
especially if he has to go back 2 or 3 times to each, in order to catch them in.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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16 October 2008
19:477633Thank you for that but I did go for M.P. and did get some help, but done alot on my own so I will still carrie on with what I have said tonight on the Forum, but for now I am working on my flyers for St Radigunds they will be ready to go to the printers in the morning but I am going to the Dr first about my back if I get the O,K. from him then next week I will be out about with them if not -----but I will not pull out even if I can not get out at this time.
I remain yours faithfully VIC MATCHAM
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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16 October 2008
19:517634Just to say it is nice to see jacqui back on line, I know she has no time for me but that life.
Vic Matcham
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22 October 2008
12:047921Vic why are we in europe. why do we obay european laws when countrys like Bulguim & France have over turned there smokeing ban in cafes and bars. why do we have to pay tolls on there roads but when thay come to ENGLAND they dont, why can they go on strike and we carnt.why do we pay millons to europe so thay can give it to spain and other Countrys to build there roads.surly if we are going to be part of europe then we need a level playing field with the same laws over there and here. take driving in france you have to have A GB Badge Fire EX, Triangle, Light Bulbs, and a High Vis jacket for every passanger in the car,but again they Dont. when they come here they speed on our roads and what do the police do Nothing because of paper work why not on the spot fines. Europe has been going now for years and we are only in Europe when its good for the Gov,when its good for the people of this country the gov say no to all.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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22 October 2008
17:097926Alan Well said good points so with the kind of problems you are taking about, and lots more as well we need more E.M.P. to put our case over,we are in the E.U. like it or not so we need to be there or they will have it all their own way. That is how I SEE IT.
VIC matcham
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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22 October 2008
17:127927dont you meen mep vic.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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22 October 2008
19:177929alan makes some very good points.
the EU will never be one country, we are all too diverse, it does seem that everyone uses the european directives to suit themselves.
are you sure about the smoking ban being overturned in belgium and france?
Guest 670- Registered: 23 Apr 2008
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22 October 2008
20:267932I am not too sure about the smoking ban either but I am sure that they don't enforce it quite so rigorously as we do here and wouldn't waste money on smoking inspectors. I wonder how much he costs the council taxpayer every year.
Certainly since the ban came into force hundreds of pubs have closed and many people have lost their jobs.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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22 October 2008
20:497933dave
i have never understood why there could not be smoking pubs and cafes together with the non smoking versions.
i have listened to the argument about the staff, surely smoking staff would gravitate to the smoking establishments and vica verca.
Guest 670- Registered: 23 Apr 2008
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22 October 2008
21:267936This was the original plan Howard, the idea being that the little corner boozer or those not doing food should be exempt.
The government took the view that people who did not frequent pubs would suddenly start using them, in reality that never happened. Certainly in my view there could have been pubs for smokers providing they didn't do food and excluded children, thus giving people a choice.
Guest 670- Registered: 23 Apr 2008
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22 October 2008
21:267937This was the original plan Howard, the idea being that the little corner boozer or those not doing food should be exempt.
The government took the view that people who did not frequent pubs would suddenly start using them, in reality that never happened. Certainly in my view there could have been pubs for smokers providing they didn't do food and excluded children, thus giving people a choice.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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23 October 2008
14:177953I agree with that i do not smoke or drink ,but did say some time ago at a meeting pubs should have their own smokers room not put outside The English pub when I was a drinker was about going down meet up with your mates have a drink talk about work E,TC, play a game of darts I say let them back in.
Vic MATCHAM
Guest 675- Registered: 30 Jun 2008
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23 October 2008
14:307954Sadly the demise of the local is not only the fault of the smoking ban (and how long before there are a pile of objections to people standing outside smoking?) but also the constant tax increases on draught beer etc. making it cheaper to buy in from a supermarket. It was a knee jerk law that was badly thought out and took no time to consider the fate of those pubs that form the heart of so many communities. I wonder how many of those who decided upon it owe their existance to their parents meeting in a pub?
Politics, it seems to me, for years, or all too long, has been concerned with right or left instead of right or wrong.
Richard Armour
Guest 670- Registered: 23 Apr 2008
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23 October 2008
15:587955I am afraid you are a little bit wrong Chris the smoking ban is the main reason why pubs have closed. It has always been accepted that beer prices increase in every budget and the average licensee although not liking it put up with it. Cheap supermarket booze has been with us a long time and had very little impact on the trade, people still liked to visit their local.
It was an ill-conceived piece of legislation that has cost hundreds of jobs.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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23 October 2008
17:547959Dave, this 'ill conceived' piece of legislation has resulted in my returning to pubs and enhanced my enjoyment of the experience enormously. There are many like me.
No, I do not agree that it is all down to this, the cost, the recession, supermarkets all play their part.
There's always a little truth behind every "Just kidding", a little emotion behind every "I don't care" and a little pain behind every "I'm ok".
