Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
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We agree Arthur .
Gary your correct , with cutbacks across the bus service that should have been sorted before this waste of money
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Captain Haddock
- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 7,862
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
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Lots of issues around the costly project
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Weird Granny Slater
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 7 Jun 2017
- Posts: 2,981
'The scheme was approved by KCC in 2021'.
In a statement, a KCC spokesman said: '...due to the lead time for electric vehicles they will not be available at the start of the service...'
Not that I give a fig for this project, but does anyone know what the lead time is for an electric bus?
3+ years seems rather long and, given the trumpets were originally booked for autumn 2023, presumably ~2 years was then considered enough.
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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It's not going well considering the big cost
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Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
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The way Government and Councils waste money on grandiose schemes like this bus idea and then claim they have nothing spare for what is really needed for the majority is what p****s off most of us tax payers.
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Arthur- Registered: 18 Nov 2020
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What angers me is that they take absolutely no notice of the residents views. They make plans for the future ie the Local Development Plan but then fail to take account of the fact that things can change and plans therefore need to be revised/reviewed. COVID had a huge impact on how people work and commute. This crucial factor should have been considered before this plan was implemented. Additionally, making a bus route directly into the town doesn’t change the fact that there is precious little shopping in Dover. I can’t see how it will impact on tourism either. But of course I’m just a stupid resident so obviously the powers in charge will simply dismiss my concerns and opinions.
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Reginald Barrington
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 17 Dec 2014
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It has nothing to do with helping Dover, tourism, its residents, Etc. It doesn't even have much to do with the potential new residents of the new rabbit hutches on the hill!
But until people start to realise this then nothing can change
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
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The problem with Dover FastTrack is that it is using cutting-edge technology which has never been tried out anywhere else so delays were almost inevitable.
https://www.sustainable-bus.com/electric-bus/electric-bus-public-transport/The Gov likes this
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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2024 and nobody in Blitain manufactures milk-floats with seats?
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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We agree Jan !!!!!
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Ross Miller
- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
- Posts: 3,693
Bob there are UK coach builders, but sadly no UK based battery/drive chain manufacturers. In fact almost all commercial vehicle electric drive chains currently come from a tiny number of manufacturers in the PRC; one of which is BYD.
The biggest supplier of buses in recent years to UK fleets is Wrightbus (http://www.wrightbus.com) who supply diesel, hydrogen or electric options; for the latter they buy in the drive trains & chassis as a completed unit from the likes of BYD. For BYD to be in the running for this contract suggest they are undercutting Wrightbus by a reasonable margin...
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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Yup. I know Ross. 'Our' coachbuilding is going much the same way as Germany's pv industry.
At least these big boys won't need a 'special' fast route!
https://www.dfds.com/en/about/media/news/dfds-to-invest-1-billion-euro-in-battery-electric-ships-for-the-channel
Although requiring in excess of 10MWh for each trip to France it will be interesting to see where they are going to get the power from without all the lights of Dover dimming each time they dock!
Is the local grid up to it?????
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Karlos- Location: Dover
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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My son sent me this from Trieste. Updates on buses on EPaper displays.
Hardly any power used and make TfLs's dot-matrix displays look primative.
Meanwhile at Pencester (for example) we have exactly zero information.
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Terry Nunn
- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 4,301
The bus stop at Tesco's has a similar display. However, it appears to show timetable times not actual running times.
Terry
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
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Terry Nunn wrote:The bus stop at Tesco's has a similar display. However, it appears to show timetable times not actual running times.
Interesting. I was on the top deck of the No12 bus today (does anyone else try to bag the front seat on top so they can pretend they're driving?) when I noticed it mounted above the usual timetables. It showed the next four buses arriving and 'live' arrival times.
Perhaps it's there because it's a DoverFastrack stop but it's showing other services right now.
No sign of anything like it at Canterbury bus station which (as I've said before) is no longer issuing the small folding timetables leaving one relying on the App and Canterbury's non existant 'phone signal.
Perhaps some of our bus services stand a chance of getting into the 21st century BEFORE they are all cancelled?
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,828
But Bob
Over the past weeks the app hasn't been working
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Karlos- Location: Dover
- Registered: 1 Oct 2012
- Posts: 2,467
Just received an email saying that the Pencester Road changes will be going ahead.
Despite the majority being against it
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