Ross Miller
- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
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30 January 2011
19:0090770The London Road Community Forum need your help in finding out who the land belongs to bordered by the red line in this attachment. Any help would be good...
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Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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30 January 2011
19:1290774A Land Registry Online request only costs a few ££ to get a copy of the deeds.
Been nice knowing you :)
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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30 January 2011
19:1690775Pitch your tent on it and see who turns up.
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Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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30 January 2011
19:4290781Yes i was one of them in that scrap yard on Saturday it is in a mess,but not so bad once we had a good look round.
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30 January 2011
20:0490785Many many years ago it used to belong to Horace Copping of Copping & Holland fame.
I'm sure Terry & others will remember the names & personalities.
Cherry Tree Ave used to be a quite self contained shopping area.
Watty
Guest 672- Registered: 3 Jun 2008
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30 January 2011
20:1690790I spoke to the LRCF quite a while ago about this land Ross, I know of no names or owners now its been such a long time.
What a great site for a River Dour education site or whatever.
I believe the land could not be sold due to contamination by mechanical fluids of variuos sorts.
The land at the other side of the culvert ( at the back of the shops ) is also an eyesore and the last I heard was owned by a company in Margate.......that was some 15yrs ago. its been that way as long as I have lived here, 33yrs.
grass grows by the inches but dies by the feet.
Ross Miller- Location: London Road, Dover
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31 January 2011
00:0190827Thanks Ian & others
We are aware of who the owner of the old scrapyard site is and have been in discussions with them, it is the triangle of land between the culvert and the footpath that is the unknown at the moment.
I am arranging for Environmental Health to assess the land next week (hopefully) so we get an idea of what issues there may be and then we will see what happens.
Paul - yes I am aware of the ease of checking things at the land registry and will do that this week, just thought some of you might be able to give me a clue.
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Guest 686- Registered: 5 May 2009
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31 January 2011
00:0690828Ross: The link in your initial post doesn't work. I've added the Google Earth image to this post.
Phil West
If at first you don't succeed, use a BIGGER hammer!!
Ross Miller- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
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31 January 2011
00:0890829Thanks Phil
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Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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31 January 2011
08:0890835Wll done Phil - haven't heard from you for ages, hope all is well with you ?
Thanks Ross, hope the contamination isn't too serious. As you know Andy came to see me last week, hope we can help with clearing the land.
Good Luck on finding the land-owner - it can't be worth much as there's no separate access, so can't build anything on it; can you (LRCF) make a claim on it if you can't find the owners ?
Roger
Ross Miller- Location: London Road, Dover
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31 January 2011
08:1090837Thanks Roger
That last option is something i will also investigate
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Guest 667- Registered: 6 Apr 2008
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31 January 2011
08:3390839The small triangle in red has been as it is for as long as I can remember, we always played on it as kids and had our bonfire there back in the 50's. Just a thought but would it have had anything to do with the church that once stood next to it.
Guest 703- Registered: 30 Jul 2010
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31 January 2011
11:3690847I remember that triangular plot being fenced off some time in the 90s when we were living on Buckland Avenue, presumably it was to stop anyone making a claim on it.
Ross, some of my ex-colleagues at Univ of Kent work on research to develop new methods of decontaminating soil with micro-organisms, I can put you in touch for an informal chat or ask their opinion myself if you like.
Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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31 January 2011
13:4590857From the land registry it appears to be :
Address: Land And Buildings On The East Side Of
Cherry Tree Avenue
Dover
Tenure: Freehold
£4 for a title register
Been nice knowing you :)
Terry Nunn
- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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31 January 2011
14:0590858Lynn Brisley, that extremely helpful lady at DDC has discovered that it's owned by the same person who owns the scrapyard.
Well done Lynn.
Terry
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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31 January 2011
20:2290890Presumably, the scrapyard owner didn't realise he owned that bit too, but the developer owns it all now - I guess.
Roger
Ross Miller- Location: London Road, Dover
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31 January 2011
23:1890913Fantastic help guys
Well that makes life easier in some ways if it is all owned by the same person
Ray - that would be very interesting - my mail address is available if you click on my name
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Ross Miller- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
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31 January 2011
23:4390915All
As one of the worst kept secrets appears to have got out, I can confirm that LRCF have been granted permission by the current landowner to clear the site of the old scrap yard off Cherry Tree Avenue. The work is being co-ordinated by myself with the help of Paul Willmott of the White Cliffs Countryside Project.
The London Road Community Forum are delighted to be able to finally tackle what has been an eyesore in the centre of Dover for ages. Local residents have been complaining about the state of the land for many years, and landowner Martin Clarke was more than happy to join in a spirit of community improvement by allowing access to the site, which stands on contaminated land and has been vacant for more than 15 years. It is hoped that the land will either be developed after being cleared or that an agreement can then be reached with the landowner for a more permanent community-based project that would see the land used by the public. No details have been drawn up yet for use of the land following the clearance by the London Road Community Forum.
As Jeanette Harper LRCF Chairman said "This land clearance project will not cost the tax payer one single penny and will be a massive improvement on what is more like a junkyard than a scrapyard! We'd be delighted if anyone would like to join in; the more the merrier, and we do have great fun on projects like this."
Please for the moment if any of you would like to volunteer your labour to help with this community project can you provide Paul (paul.willmott@whitecliffscountryside.org.uk) or myself (info@mastertonrobindesigns.co.uk) as Project Manager, your names and the dates you are available between now and the end of February.
We do however need to get final clearance from both an Environmental Health and Fire Safety perspective and whilst these may materialise this week, there is no guarantee; we also need to arrange various items of equipment in order to ensure the safety of volunteers whilst working on the site and also to ensure security of the site; this will take some days to organise.
I will post dates for workgroups once we have all the necessary approvals/agreements in place
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Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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1 February 2011
07:5890927Well done Ross, Jeanette, Andy and everyone else.
Tidying this site will please everyone I'm sure. If I can be of help Ross, please do let me know.
Roger
Ross Miller- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
- Posts: 3,695
2 February 2011
00:4891105Thanks Roger - I will be in touch if we need help from your youngsters.
"Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die today." - James Dean
"Being deeply loved by someone gives you strength,
While loving someone deeply gives you courage" - Laozi
Phil West