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15 February 2011
18:3692779Now this is an excellent example of the Big Society in action.
Local people with local pride doing a super project for their community.
And frankly they don't need a title it's just civic good works by socially responsible people.
Well done.
Watty
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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15 February 2011
18:4292781fully agree paul, praise for them can not be high enough.
how many more around the country though?
dover is blessed with people who do things voluntarily, people living in crime ridden estates do not have any community spirit left, they just want to go about their daily business and get home safely.
Guest 686- Registered: 5 May 2009
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16 February 2011
23:4392931The only down side to this project is not knowing if our efforts will be rewarded with a community site or just sold off for development and more "little boxes made of ticky-tacky". I would really like to see this area turned into a community park or gardens despite the problems associated with future upkeep and security. The bottom line is going to be down to money as usual.
The site of the old Co-op Hall (the Royal Mail "baggery" of late) was bulldozed for development but nothing, so far, has happened in what, two years? Maybe this is an example of overblown expectations that may, ultimately, benefit the LRCF efforts for the scrapyard.
Phil West
If at first you don't succeed, use a BIGGER hammer!!
Ross Miller
- Location: London Road, Dover
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16 February 2011
23:5392933I agree Phil
The owner has made it clear he will make one more attempt to gain planning permission for the site and if that fails he will look to sell. This clearly creates an opportunity for the local community, through a suitable vehicle, to raise money and make an offer for the site. Sadly, of course, it is unlikely to be cheap; as the owner will be looking to make a return on his 15 year investment. Thankfully we have a good group of motivated and skilled people who might just make it happen.
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Unregistered User
17 February 2011
14:0492978I think the Maison Dieu Rd. site has planning permission & has been waiting for housing allocation financial support which I believe has now been granted.
Watty
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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17 February 2011
15:4992995paul
there used to be a sign at the front of the plot showing that a housing association was planning to buld on it.
Unregistered User
17 February 2011
17:2693016Correct Howard, Southern Housing Group.
Watty
Ross Miller- Location: London Road, Dover
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18 February 2011
20:5193226Bouncing this back to the top
With a decent turn out from local volunteers this weekend we might even be able to finish the clearance -
so come on get down to Cherry Tree at 09.30 on Saturday or Sunday and do your bit
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Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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19 February 2011
08:0493260You should be getting 3 people from the LSBC this week-end Ross.
On the selling of the land, you must be aware of course that if planning permission is not granted, then the selling price will be so much less; not an expression of interest, just a matter of fact.
Roger
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19 February 2011
09:1793275If you go today you will need oilskins and a sou'wester.
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Ross Miller- Location: London Road, Dover
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19 February 2011
09:5893280Thanks Peter
The hardy folks of LRCF & WCCP apparently made the decision on Thursday (I must have been busy chatting to Lynn or Mark Elluel - our new community PC) that if it was raining we would not carry out any works.
So looks like "Rain Stopped Play" for today
Well gives me a chance to catch up on stuff at home and in my garden
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Ross Miller- Location: London Road, Dover
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19 February 2011
14:0993310Well a huge thank you to Paul W, Vic and the two lads from Roger's scheme that turned up this morning despite the weather.
We have now managed to clear everything up to the culvert, thinned back the brush on the river side and cleared all round the containers on the site.
Tomorrow weather permitting we will attack the small triangular site north of the culvert and clear right back to the river as well - probably only 3 days work left
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Guest 644- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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19 February 2011
14:1593311Thanks for the update Ross, well done to all. The triangular section left is much more densely packed with vegetation than the main yard so we'll as much help as possible. See you tomorrow.
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20 February 2011
10:1993451Bumping this up - come and help this morning, we start in ten minutes or so!
Ross Miller- Location: London Road, Dover
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20 February 2011
20:2693535Another really successful day (thanks Paul, Mandy, Anita & daughter, Phil E, Lenny, Andy, Graham - a local resident, Welsh Brian & Phil W) we have now cleared the main part of the site.
Next weekend the lads and lasses will be clearing the triangle of land north of the culvert - please do come down to help even if only for a couple of hours
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Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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20 February 2011
21:4093569Yes next weekend could see it all done only wish I could have done more,it is my kind of work but just at this time I can not do alot but nice to be part of the group.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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20 February 2011
22:0893582sounds like a good job well done, just the finishing off now.
we used to do all that stuff in the priory area.
Ross Miller- Location: London Road, Dover
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20 February 2011
22:2193586so what happened Howard?
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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20 February 2011
22:4793588good question ross, i think it ended up being hamstrung by health and safety/admin stuff.
keith and sheila will know the full details.
we used to go team handed into the alleyways and overgrown verges and clear stuff.
on the positive side some local people would see what we were doing and join in, on the negative side some would see it as a chance to bring stuff out of their homes and expect us to carry it away.
Ross Miller- Location: London Road, Dover
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20 February 2011
23:2693591I understand the last part - some idiot overnight threw a bag of their rubbish over the river on to the cleared scrap yard
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