Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,803
I remember getting off the bus just before the next fare-stage so I could buy some flying saucers with the money saved.
It is worth remembering that take-aways are popular for those living in bedsits, with us oldies who sometimes do not feel up to cooking as well as tired busy mums who work full-time.
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Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,860
Sue
Politics decisions affect your ever day life, and whilst you would prefer to deny it that's fine .
Jan has some good thoughts on it that maybe for some it's a lifeline
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Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 6,018
Well I disagree with you and Jan.I worked at Lukeys part time and when I arrived home I cooked a meal.We could never afford Take aways I made my own chips?Probably egg and chips.Im with Arthur on this one . Jacket potatoes cheap and easy to cook.Keith I realise Politics effect us all however Keith you donot have to turn everything into a politicial arguement.i was brought up the old fashioned way .I just made a comment we have far too many take aways.Nothing interesting in St James.Hardly any shops.You can’t look in the. Window of a take away .
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,803
We can no longer equate how we all used to live when a lot younger as opposed to now.
When I was a young working mother the only take-away available was fish and chips which we used to have as a treat. Now my treat choice is much wider and often just as healthy in fact sometimes more so than a diet of egg and chips etc.
Also worth noting as a family we now prefer a inexpensive take-away to a restaurant meal as a treat but I guess that would also be wrong.
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Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 6,018
I must accept Dover just wants fast food outlets and no decent shops.The vision for St James was for decent shops.Still that’s gone now.No transport to it.Marks and Spencer only food no clothes.No wonder we have to shop on line.I recall Market Square with decent shops .No vision.
Ross Miller
- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
- Posts: 3,696
We can have all the vision in the world, but no council cannot force retailers to make the choice to come to their area.
Retailers choose an area based on a huge range of metrics, including demographics, predominate socio-economic groupings, existing footfall, existing retail options, accessibility etc.
What councils can do is make their town centres attractive by improving the street scene, making it accessible (travel & parking), facilitate attractions/events to pull people in etc. which DDC/DTC are slowly doing. What they cannot do is alter the wider move to on-line shopping, the desire to have a wide range of food choices delivered to your door etc.
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Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 6,018
A voice of reason.Ross .My favourite quote at DDC .was”We will never be a Cheltham or Gloucester” I tried to raise the profile of DDC but some people will always let politics take centre stage.Im half listening to the budget speech however still instead of listening they have to shout the Chancellor down .No manners .
Dover Pilot- Registered: 28 Jul 2018
- Posts: 345
It's all about demographics. How many fast food outlets are in Deal or Sandwich?
DDC/DTC can have all the Dover centric attractions/events and improved street scene in the world but if they don't attract the demographic, retailers will make their choice. Blaming on-line shopping is an easy excuse but doesn't tell the full story.
Councils should encapsulate these demographics but what we have is a District Council which isolates Dover from the rest of the district through its policies. Public transport across the district is woeful and car parking charges are over priced.
The demographic we want to attract in Dover therefore drives to Westwood Cross and its free parking.
DDC are currently promoting their plans for the new Deal Leisure centre which looks almost identical to the Whitfield Leisure centre. So the notion of a "district" leisure centre has gone out of the window because rather than building fast transport links across the district we once again have tunnel vision policies like a fast track bus service to new builds which we don't need based on actual birth rates which continue to decline every year.
Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 6,018
You are right Dover pilot.I rarely use a bus .I cannot loner go to Canterbury.i have watched the budget announcement very complicated.On Another note home made soup is in the making .Surprising what you can do with vegetables.
Andy B
- Location: dover
- Registered: 10 Nov 2012
- Posts: 1,741
I much prefere to spend my money in town whenever possible,but only last week my wife wanted a pair of trainers.She went down town,not in her size and the wrong colour.Went online,they were even cheaper with free next day delivery if you ordered before 5.00pm and sure enough she had them later the next day.For many items this is why its so easy to buy online now.20-30 years ago when many of us had mail order catologues you would often wait 2-3 weeks for an item to arrive,delivery times are so quick nowdays and this is why so many are shopping this way but i still prefere a shop.
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Andy B
i miss Delicia,s on London road for the ladies bits. I have had to move on line on
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Ross Miller- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
- Posts: 3,696
Whilst on the surface there is little that DDC can do to address for instance the aging population of the district, if we scratch a bit deeper there are things they can do to make the district attractive to business as well as schemes to encourage start ups (infrastructure is key). These steps alone would help slowly but surely bring younger people into the district.
Sadly, there is little DDC can do about public transport, which is a KCC & government remit & is generally delivered by private contactors; of course then can make representations but that sadly often isn't enough.
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,860
Sue
Politics plays a large part in decisions and how we live .
I think Jan has pointed out to you some very good discussion points that vary from your own .
I merely point out you have been a member of the controlling conservative group and voting conservative you know what's coming that was a choice you make .
I have said before today Sue that you carried a personal vote as a lib dem in River and then changing in same ward to conservative and still winning seat .
Very few cllrs can do this as many are unknown .
That's enough praising you up now Sue lol
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Andy B- Location: dover
- Registered: 10 Nov 2012
- Posts: 1,741
The Gov wrote:Andy B
i miss Delicia,s on London road for the ladies bits. I have had to move on line on
The Lingerie shop, thats going back a few years,must have shut 20years ago.
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Paul Watkins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 9 Nov 2011
- Posts: 2,226
Mr & Mrs saker we’re the owners. Bill was a Dover Councillor in the old days before DDC & DTC. Always had an excellent, tasteful window display. My father had the newsagents next door, my formative years as a paperboy.
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Reginald Barrington
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 17 Dec 2014
- Posts: 3,231
Whereabouts on London road were they? I can remember it but cannot place it.
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Arthur- Registered: 18 Nov 2020
- Posts: 435
We all need to accept that shopping has changed and will never be the same again. There are advantages and disadvantages- lessons to be learned. The market place out there is vast but it leaves everyone vulnerable to making mistakes. I learned quite quickly the sites that I find reliable and trustworthy- offering good quality and easy returns. However this does come at a price, usually a minimum spend. Usually cheap things are disappointing and costly to return- particularly those coming from China.
My concerns regarding fast food outlets and the increasing numbers, is that they are contributing to a national obesity epidemic. Fast food is fine in moderation but I fear that the practice of moderation is being lost. We are bombarded with fast food advertising and meals in boxes at hugely inflated prices. I would genuinely love to have some answers to this problem but can’t offer any . We must look forward and find some solutions otherwise the NHS will be completed overwhelmed with diabetes and obesity related problems . Walk around the local area, look at the residents and how size is increasing.
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,860
I fully understand the concerns on take aways
But in conservative times of market forces obviously take aways are the only ones that feel they can become viable in Dover
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Button
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 22 Jul 2016
- Posts: 3,028
Keith Sansum1 wrote:I fully understand the concerns on take aways
But in conservative times of market forces obviously take aways are the only ones that feel they can become viable in Dover
And barbers. And nail bars.
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Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
and the rest of them