Guest 713- Registered: 19 Mar 2011
- Posts: 342
What is the shop going to be at the back of the old Methodist church in Beconsfield which was next door to the ladies hairdressers. I see that workmen have taken the front of the shop off,I thought that the old church was going to be pulled down is it part of that ?
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Don't know anything about the shop but last I heard was that the church was coming down to make way for flats/ converted to flats and the church hall was being used for services and other church activities.
Guest 1391- Registered: 1 Nov 2014
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Those two shops are part of the Beacon Christian centre; being renovated to,provide facilities for the community activities that the Church are involved with. Believe there will be a link through to the church hall hall that is being used for all their activities at the moment.
Yes, there is a planning application to demolish the old church (not in use) and sell the site with permission for flats.all the work will improve the appearance of that area.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 14,118
Not with flats,and pulling down any church is very sad and does not improve any area.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Falling church attendances mean that it is inevitable that many will be sold off for redevelopment, the church in question is not particularly attractive so I would much prefer to see ones like the burned down United Reformed eventually rebuilt with its remaining original features.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Yes it would be nice to see that one one again still no need to pull the other one down they could do the same with that one and keep the outside the same.
Reginald Barrington
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 17 Dec 2014
- Posts: 3,231
The italian produce store in Charlton centre sadly now closed.
Arte et Marte
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
Never ending change at the Charlton Centre despite the best efforts of management there.
They have had late night openings, food fayres and Christmas events.
Reginald Barrington- Location: Dover
- Registered: 17 Dec 2014
- Posts: 3,231
It's a lovely little arcade just in the wrong place.
Arte et Marte
Guest 1348- Registered: 20 Sep 2014
- Posts: 276
It lost out from when Sainsbury's left, as when they were there I remember shops being on the second floor and always passing business as people went from car park to Sainsbury's. But in todays retail it is an uphill struggle and a shame no large store to draw passing trade in where it is still vacant where Sainsbury's was.
Reginald Barrington- Location: Dover
- Registered: 17 Dec 2014
- Posts: 3,231
And will die a lonely death when/if the st James development gets finished, maybe not so lonely most everything from pencester back will struggle.
Arte et Marte
Andy B
- Location: dover
- Registered: 10 Nov 2012
- Posts: 1,741
I was told that the upstairs of the Charlton centre is being made into appartments.Lots of building work going on at the moment.
Reginald Barrington- Location: Dover
- Registered: 17 Dec 2014
- Posts: 3,231
That's what they've been upto, certainly ripped a lot of stud walls out.
Arte et Marte
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,803
That is correct Andy, flats are going in upstairs I know there were a lot of them in the original plans but do not know how many got final approval from Planning.
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Terry Nunn
- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 4,302
"13/00070 | Part change of use and conversion of first floor to 10 one bedroom flats, three two bedroom flats and one three bedroom flat and associated external alterations"
I have mixed feelings about it.
Terry
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Andy B- Location: dover
- Registered: 10 Nov 2012
- Posts: 1,741
Trouble is that no traders are interested in taking shops on the upper level anymore so what do you do?Someones invested a lot of money in the centre and of course whats to see some sort of return on their money so its probably the only option left to them.I suppose its better than just leaving them empty.
Karlos- Location: Dover
- Registered: 1 Oct 2012
- Posts: 2,483
Personally I would have the whole site knocked and replaced with housing, But I know that won't happen.
Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 6,018
That was on the cards at one time.
Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 6,018
That was on the cards at one time.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Karlos sir you are right said this before town centres need to be small,just like the days of cowboys when they were going out into the wild west they would put their wagons in a small all round,
close to each other that way it was easy to protect. and towns are the same .they need to draw close with each other so the public can use them without walking a long way to get to one shop.
