Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,806
PaulineQuick wrote:Never liked immigrants thinking they know better. Dovorians have been saying for years that DTIZ was a lost opportunity and a creative quarter or small business incubator would boost the town rather than a bland shopping mall. Not much you can you do though when the council doesn't listen.
Not much you can do when "Dovorians" are not open to new ideas whomever has them. As an aside who is a Dovorian? Is it someone who lives here or only the select bunch who were born in Dover. I was a Londoner although not born there, I now consider myself a Dovorian having lived here on and off for about fifty years.
A fresh outlook from outsiders is usually something not thought of before and has saved many a business in the past so why not a town in need of a kick start to improvement. Dover has so much to offer to tourists but only the castle ever gets positive publicity.
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Guest 2418- Registered: 14 Dec 2017
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We don't need a fresh look from outsiders that's why we voted for Brexit. If you are not a born and bred Dovorian you have no right to tell us what is best.
Captain Haddock
- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 7,941
PaulineQuick wrote:We don't need a fresh look from outsiders that's why we voted for Brexit. If you are not a born and bred Dovorian you have no right to tell us what is best.
"Where ignorance is bliss, 'tis folly to be wise."
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
PaulineQuick wrote:We don't need a fresh look from outsiders that's why we voted for Brexit. If you are not a born and bred Dovorian you have no right to tell us what is best.
Sounds like Royston Vasey, this is a local town for local people, there is nothing for you here.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
Noticed that Store 21 was closed yesterday and today and the premises are still on Terson's website - rent £55, 000 p.a.
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,806
PaulineQuick wrote:We don't need a fresh look from outsiders that's why we voted for Brexit. If you are not a born and bred Dovorian you have no right to tell us what is best.
What on earth has Brexit to do with what is best for the town, or do you consider anyone not born and bred in Dover as a foreigner?
Pauline's narrow minded attitude is what has been the downfall of Dover, the expression that springs to mind is 'none so blind as those that will not see'.
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Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
talking about imigrants , I notised a lot of them are day tripping dover and doing shopping then going back to there own country.at least they are spending money here.
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Button
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 22 Jul 2016
- Posts: 3,028
I was an immigrant to Dover in 1975 and have been here ever since (apart from a 6 month stint in Saafend). Now that I belatedly realise that my opinions and local/national voting don't count (and presumably our MP is similarly disqualified), I'm interested in sending my Council Tax "back home" to the place of my birth. Is there a form I can fill in, or do I have to saddle-up the donkey again?
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Karlos- Location: Dover
- Registered: 1 Oct 2012
- Posts: 2,485
"casserole in our melancholy" is a phrase and a half. They do speak fancy at Dover College don't they?
Guest 1033- Registered: 23 Aug 2013
- Posts: 509
I seem to remember another staff member at Dover College, one Jeffrey Archer, being well known for talking b*ll*cks too.
Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 6,018
Having been under the weather for a few days I have now had time to read the article by the Headmaster of Dover College,he is very inspirational and has made some very valid comments The precinct has never really worked the one way system is not good.When buses flowed tnrough Biggin Street one could look in the shop windows and more people went into Market Square as that's where you caught the buses.
Tenderten very busy Main Street with buses flowing through.
For those posters who take the mick out of the article remember Dover College brings money into our town.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
Noticed earlier that a new shop has opened next to John Angell Jewellers called European Mini Mart stocking mainly Polish delicacies, only yesterday in Guildhall St Folkestone a replica of the afore mentioned shop had opened there with the same name. The Baltic shop in Market Square will have their nose put out.
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Sue Nicholas wrote:Having been under the weather for a few days I have now had time to read the article by the Headmaster of Dover College,he is very inspirational and has made some very valid comments The precinct has never really worked the one way system is not good.When buses flowed tnrough Biggin Street one could look in the shop windows and more people went into Market Square as that's where you caught the buses.
Tenderten very busy Main Street with buses flowing through.
For those posters who take the mick out of the article remember Dover College brings money into our town.
Money into the town? Do you have something that can prove this?
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Reginald Barrington
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 17 Dec 2014
- Posts: 3,232
PaulineQuick wrote:Money into the town? Do you have something that can prove this?
The fact that it is in town, employs locals, its students spend there money in town, the college buys much of its goods in town, it fuels its and its staff vehicles in town for starters!
What a strange question.
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Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 6,018
Thanks Reg you replied before I could answer.You have stated the obvious.I think the students frequent the cafes etc.staff use our shops,and a percentage of the students are from overseas.Their parents use our hotels when they visit their off springs.
The headmaster s a very good ambasoder for out town ,
I'm partly biased as my younger son was eductated there and thanks to his excellent schooling also. Educating him for life he has an excellent career.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
Just heard that Dicken's Corner has closed down.
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 7,941
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
#1141, that's old news, anouced 7 months ago.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
Went past Dicken's corner today and all the menus and notices on the windows have been taken down but chairs and tables still in place, maybe whoever is taking it over has done a deal with the previous owner. Still no planning application for the upper floors yet on DDC site.
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 7,941
Brian Dixon wrote:#1141, that's old news, an(n)ouced 7 months ago.
I am well aware that this is 'old news' Brian, but what we must be aware of is that it is developments like this and the proposed developments of both retail and a multiplex cinema at Canterbury that Dover High Street will be up against.
We have made this mistake before, starting planning the St James shopping complex at exactly the same year that Amazon first started trading in the UK making much shopping redundant for example. I suspect the original sketches for DTIZ showed Woolworths, a Blockbuster Video, BHS, a Book Shop and a Dixons! How could any high street possibly do without them?
Dover really needs a strategic plan looking to the future rather than perpetually playing catch up.
What will people's transport, entertainment,leisure and retail requirements be 10 years from now and 20 years from now. What is already on stream in the wider area which will directly compete?
If we 'save our High Street' as it is, Dover will die.
The only hope is to make the High Street as a sucessful high street of the future will be.
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
