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"but Germany is quite happy to put many thousands of their car workers on the dole in order to punish us, "
Why do people write and believe this sort of nonsense?
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howard mcsweeney1 wrote:From what I understand the ones who would be interested in voting have a wide range of views, the Poles veering slightly to the Tories.
immigrants will vote for the party that gives them the most ? that's the labour party .regardles of what they wouled vote in their own country
Guest 2060- Registered: 19 Apr 2017
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Keith. I know your continuous comments are about immigration.
Just to clarify.
Commonwealth citizens, Irish citizens and UK citizens are Only allowed to vote in General Elections.
EU citizens and convicted prisoners are not allowed to vote in General Elections as well as members of the House of Lords are not allowed. I suggest the convicted prisoners clause may cover the House of Lords?
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D Little wrote:"but Germany is quite happy to put many thousands of their car workers on the dole in order to punish us, "
Why do people write and believe this sort of nonsense?
I suppose I will have to spell it out.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/sep/29/german-business-leader-warning-brexit-trade-ukGuest 1849- Registered: 12 Sep 2016
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Well you've attempted to spell it out but as usual you haven't. Nowhere in that article does it say, or even imply,
"but Germany is quite happy to put many thousands of their car workers on the dole in order to punish us, "
If you seriously believe BMW or any other manufacturer will sack workers rather than sell us cars you're even more deluded than I thought, and to be fair you were starting from a very low point.
Guest 1849- Registered: 12 Sep 2016
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Let's build on McSweeney's assertion.
The head of BMW calls the workforce together and says there is an order from UK to build thousands of cars. The workers cheer and shake hands.
"But hold on, I want to punish them, you're all sacked."
Its very straightforward, even for the terminally dim on here.
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Keith Bibby wrote:immigrants will vote for the party that gives them the most ? that's the labour party .regardles of what they wouled vote in their own country
The rules (wot Peter James said):
Local government elections:
http://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/faq/voting-and-registration/who-is-eligible-to-vote-at-a-local-government-election
UK general elections:
http://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/faq/voting-and-registration/who-is-eligible-to-vote-at-a-uk-general-election'Pass the cow dung, my dropsy's killing me' - Heraclitus
Guest 2060- Registered: 19 Apr 2017
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Howard. The article is 9 months old.
Perhaps for the Comrades at the Guardian that maybe current news.
The EU /German tactic of bullying our country will not in the end succeed.
The Germans should remember their history of after the first world War when they had to grovel because of the Treaty of Versailles.
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Weird Granny Slater wrote:
As far as I understand, this is reciprocated with all current EU nation states.
I'm not even sure that the issue will be up for 'debate' during the exit process, as the reciprocal arrangement is conditional on EU membership: i.e. once the UK exits the EU, there's no justification for it.
'Pass the cow dung, my dropsy's killing me' - Heraclitus
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Cheer up Brian, look at it in a more positive way........smile:
............toasted!!
Do nothing and nothing happens.
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after we exit the EU the immigrants will have full rights to vote, local and government elections.
this could tip the balance of power
Guest 2060- Registered: 19 Apr 2017
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Post #617 The end paragraph. Conditional on EU membership. At least 2 EU nation states are members of the Commonwealth. Cyprus, Malta.The Irish Republic, a EU nation state has a bilateral agreement on elections and free movement with the UK for almost a hundred years.
Gibraltar is a interesting case.
David Davis is going to be very busy.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Peter James wrote:Howard. The article is 9 months old.
Perhaps for the Comrades at the Guardian that maybe current news.
The EU /German tactic of bullying our country will not in the end succeed.
The Germans should remember their history of after the first world War when they had to grovel because of the Treaty of Versailles.
Similar view in today's Telegraph Peter although the writer thinks the EU may back down under pressure from Germany.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2017/06/22/europe-waking-impact-hard-brexit/Guest 2060- Registered: 19 Apr 2017
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Keith. I suggest the balance of power has already been tipped especially if you look at the current politicians. Most of them look like and act like Aliens.
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Howard. You sound like Alastair Campbell.
Both sides are posturing.It's called negotiations.
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Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
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Peter James wrote:Post #617 The end paragraph. Conditional on EU membership. At least 2 EU nation states are members of the Commonwealth. Cyprus, Malta.The Irish Republic, a EU nation state has a bilateral agreement on elections and free movement with the UK for almost a hundred years.
Gibraltar is a interesting case.
David Davis is going to be very busy.
Indeed. But I wouldn't have thought that any agreement on voter eligibility that pre-existed the reciprocal arrangement with EU nation states (Maastricht 1992) would be affected: so the eligibility of nationals of Commonwealth states, the Irish Republic, Malta and Cyprus would continue. Gibraltar is a British Overseas Territory so, again, nationals would keep their eligibility (unless, of course, something happens to Gibraltar during the negotiations).
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'Pass the cow dung, my dropsy's killing me' - Heraclitus
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Questions. If it takes the Conservatives 2 weeks and costs us £1 billion to secure a mere 10 UK politicians consent. How long will it take the Conservatives to negotiate Brexit with EU politicians and how much will it cost us?
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Just because you don't take an interest in politics doesn't mean that politics won't take an interest in you. PERICLES.
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Theres so much complication now.
T May going in with the DUP just to help her get through Brexit talks is playing with peoples lives.
The all Ireland peace agreement is under threat.
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What is the 'all ireland peace agreement'?
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