Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
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Captain Haddock wrote:.............. or pointing out how things could be when we've thrown off our shackles?
We can but hope.

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I try to be neutral and polite but it is hard and getting even more difficult at times.
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Weird Granny Slater
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 7 Jun 2017
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The Bishop wrote:Is Boris pulling our chain?
Another attempt to betrump the masses; only sillytonians will be taken in by this cony-catcher’s cover for the Brexit hugger-mugger. I’m getting serious ear-rent from this ruffing quacksalver.
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'Pass the cow dung, my dropsy's killing me' - Heraclitus
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Weird Granny Slater wrote:Another attempt to betrump the masses; only sillytonians will be taken in by this cony-catcher’s cover for the Brexit hugger-mugger. I’m getting serious ear-rent from this ruffing quacksalver.
Ok. This proves my presumption that WGS is the secret love-child of Giles Brandreth and Eninem. Nuff said.
Just because you don't take an interest in politics doesn't mean that politics won't take an interest in you. PERICLES.
Captain Haddock
- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
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My new 'best friend' still speaks like that!
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"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
Weird Granny Slater
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 7 Jun 2017
- Posts: 3,065
The Bishop wrote:Ok. This proves my presumption that WGS is the secret love-child of Giles Brandreth and Eninem. Nuff said.
Just doing my bit for the lingo, innit? I ain't rouzy-bouzy neither.
http://news.sky.com/story/linguists-compile-list-of-lost-words-that-need-to-be-brought-back-11036102'Pass the cow dung, my dropsy's killing me' - Heraclitus
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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I am at a loss as to why ABP think that Felixstowe who handle the world's biggest containerships would want to invest in Ro Ro facilities assuming that they had enough spare capacity to do so. Any crossing to the continent from any East Anglian port is likely to be around 3 to 4 hours so hauliers will not be interested. Without checking I would imagine that roads leading to the ports would be busy enough as it is and all this(including making them all Freeport status) would have to be completed in a year and a half.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2017/09/15/post-brexit-armageddon-dover-could-avoided-diverting-ships-east/howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Another scare story from the Telegraoh.
Foreign tourists embarking on cruises at British ports risk being left behind if Brexit leads to longer airport queues, the head of a leading UK cruise provider has warned.
David Dingle, the chairman of Carnival UK, said many international cruise passengers enter the UK at an airport before joining their ship.
But as cruise liners run on tight schedules, he feared that the ships may not be able to wait for passengers trapped in long queues for passport checks at the border.
"Long immigration queues at British passports are anathema to us - the hotel may still be there four hours later, the but the ship will have to sail," Mr Dingle said.
The cruise line chief, whose Carnival firm operates P&O Cruises, also said it was crucial that ports continued to offer easy access for tourists.
"We need government to recognise both our needs and our opportunities as Brexit approaches," he said at a conference hosted by the Cruise Lines International Association (CLIA).
"Crucially, we must now allow any excessive zeal in limiting entry into this country to affect the smooth processing of cruise customers "
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
howard I encounterd that 3 weeks ago at calias,40 min's at the freanch border post and 35 at the british border add 50 min's at the check in resulted in missing the ferry home by half an hour.result had to wait 2 hours for the next ferry,and that's before we leave the eu.
Button
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 22 Jul 2016
- Posts: 3,053
Post 895: it has to be said that there are East Coast/north sea ro-ro routes, catering for what we would probably call a niche market - eg. because of where the origin/destination are. On the other hand, ABP are positioning themselves to milk Dover Straits traffic - it's an ill wind that blows nobody good!
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Worked out who you are now buttock, by referring to people by numbers rather than names proves you are [removed]. Never mind as politeness is considered to be rather passe nowadays.
Anyway you are right about the niche market out of the North and East coast that are important to businesses that export to Scandinavian countries, Northern Germany and Holland but those routes are of no use to the vast majority that rely on the short and regular crossings from Dover.
I suspect that someone in the marketing department of ABP has come up with this strange idea without having any logistical knowledge, next could be Poole to Cherbourg as a way of solving a big problem.
Please check facts before posting people's names.
Button
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 22 Jul 2016
- Posts: 3,053
Mr McS: nice try, but Button a Councillor - how dare you Sir! Anyway, I quoted 895 simply to distinguish from 896 and 897. As for ABP, you have to work with what you've got.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
Boris is getting little or no support from his colleagues over his latest attempt to undermine the PMs leadership. Most politicians seem to think they know what "leave" voters actually voted for i.e soft or hard Brexit even though the issue didn't arise until after the Referendum.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/09/17/amber-rudd-accuses-boris-johnson-backseat-driving-brexit/Weird Granny Slater
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 7 Jun 2017
- Posts: 3,065
So the Pry Mincer is ‘driving the car’, according to Amber Rudd, and in the back is Boris, tugging on his toy plastic steering wheel stuck to the back of the driver’s seat, going ‘vroom vroom’ and throwing his Starburst wrappers at May. Presumably, then, David Davis is in the front passenger seat reading the roadmap, perhaps not realising it’s the AA 1973 edition. Behind him must be Liam Fox, most likely feeling rather sick with his head under a coat. (If you’re wondering where Tim Barrow is, he’s curled up in the boot with the dogs.) But the Austin Allegro’s overheated again and they’re stuck in a lay-by waiting for it to cool off. It's getting dark, and they’re irritable and hungry, as they only brought enough food for a picnic and they’ve still got a long way to go...
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'Pass the cow dung, my dropsy's killing me' - Heraclitus
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Boris has always been better at headline grabbing than determining the facts and figures.
http://bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41301049Bob Whysman likes this
Bob Whysman
- Registered: 23 Aug 2013
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Be careful how you view the past WGS as there were a lot of good intentions there. Delve into what motivated the population then to join the Common Maket and then assess what has actually been the outcome so far.
I like your fairy story but this one from the past has increased it's kudos as the price tag clearly shows!
http://broughttobook.com/fairy-tales-by-hans-andersen-illustrated-by-kay-nielsen-signed-limited-edition-first-edition-hodder--stoughton-1924-1720-p.asp
Always worth remembering:

Do nothing and nothing happens.
Weird Granny Slater
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 7 Jun 2017
- Posts: 3,065
Thanks BW, but I like a bit more Grimm to my fairy tales, or Charles Perrault or Angela Carter, although there are plenty of emperors running around naked at the moment.
I was never a great fan of the CM, EC or EU, seeing it as pretty much a capitalist club. But then I'm pretty much agin all hierarchies and bureaucracies.
As for the quote, my answer would be that we're condemned to history, not just in the banal sense that one day us and all our systems will be so much cosmic dust, but more importantly that history is an incommutable sentence, a burden that cannot but determine the present and the future. Ah, I can smell the sweet melancholy of it all.
'Pass the cow dung, my dropsy's killing me' - Heraclitus
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Caught the end of a radio programme earlier where it was stated that we are the eight biggest manufacturing nation in the world. Don't know if anyone has a link to actual facts that confirm this as I couldn't find anything.
Button
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 22 Jul 2016
- Posts: 3,053
Spotted a parliamentary research briefing on line (searched Google for 'manufacturing nations') that puts us as 9th by value in 2014; I'm surprised, actually.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
I think the figures were more up to date and showed us moving above France into Eighth spot. I would have thought the BRIC countries, the Indian sub continent and countless sweat shop nations would have pipped us.
Brian Dixon
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- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
brexitalot is the new spamalot.