Guest 1881- Registered: 16 Oct 2016
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Whatever happened to the 90-day-account?!
Just because you don't take an interest in politics doesn't mean that politics won't take an interest in you. PERICLES.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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This is what happens when the EU and the UK cannot agree on anything, not a domesday scenario but businesses do need stability.
http://news.sky.com/story/ubs-boss-scales-down-worst-case-brexit-exodus-scenario-11100392Captain Haddock
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Leanne Wood, leader of Plaid Cymru, has already called on the Welsh Assembly to recognise Catalonia. BUT the USA puts out this statement:-
so it would appear international opinion is evenly split!
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"Shall we go, you and I, while we can? Through the transitive nightfall of diamonds"
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Brian Dixon
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so the leavers are seeing the light then
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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I think it is a bit more complicated than that Brian I found the article to be a bit confusing. I concluded that Remain voters who previously had accepted the result are now seeing the possibility of us staying in the EU whilst some Leave voters would vote differently if they had known how things would turn out, don't blame them either.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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swings and roundabouts howard
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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Paying for Euro pensions.
Further complications on exactly who owes what and until when!
'When Buttonwood contacted the Department for Exiting the EU (DEXEU), he was told it was a matter for the Treasury; the Treasury said it was a matter for DEXEU. There was no news on whether either department planned to hold its Christmas party in a brewery'.
https://www.economist.com/news/finance-and-economics/21730640-billions-depend-choice-discount-rate-sauce-brussels-goose"Shall we go, you and I, while we can? Through the transitive nightfall of diamonds"
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Tricky decision to be made with Charlie, quite rightly, asking the Chancellor to set aside money to alleviate problems at ports in the event of there being no farewell deal but if they do many businesses will see this as bad news for them thus forcing them to relocate to other member states.
http://news.sky.com/story/dover-and-out-niall-paterson-takes-in-the-brexit-views-11103770Neil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
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There has been a noticeable change in Charlie's attitude in recent weeks. Previously, he had come across as the classic flip flop MP, noisily jumping on the Brexit bandwagon in the hope of looking like a true blue and thus, I guess, raising his profile enough to warrant a Ministerial post.
However, in recent weeks, reality has clearly hit home that he, and his constituency, is literally on the Brexit front line and his interventions need to be more thoughtful and strategic. To be honest, he has raised a number of interesting and pertinent points lately, hence the significant media coverage he now 'enjoys'.
Button
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Neil, I take your point to a certain extent but, in fairness to Charlie, he was making "how is the process of import/export actually going to work?" noises well before the General Election and his recent debates and 'summits' in Westminster.
However, I don't feel he's being incisive enough; "you ought to put money aside" sounds only like a CYA stance for when, in the absence of EU27 agreement to a transitional period, it all goes pear-shaped in 2019. If one believes, as he does, that a transport park is required, then one should calculate backwards from 2019 to when construction must start. His frequent questions in the House should then be: 'what precisely have you done in the past 24 hours to be ready with the transport park - and don't bother replying that you're considering options because it's already way too late for that?' OK, so of course there is a contingency; if you read what the HMRC CE told Charlie and co., one option is to say "blow customs, just wave it all in".
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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there's allways manstone airport at a pinch. lol
Button- Location: Dover
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No way! Apart from the inequality that would introduce between the ferries and Le Shuttle (especially if the problem were at Coquelles and not Calais/Dunkerque), 100% of Dover outbound freight being routed via the unlit, single carriageway Eastry bypass on a regular basis would be an accident waiting to happen.
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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government ministers are suggesting now button. welcome to the beautefull game.
Button- Location: Dover
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Yeah, I despair. Manston was a 'get it off my desk today and make the TV pictures go away' solution - you know the type of thing: we have to be seen to be doing something, and anything will do. Trouble is, as you say, we have Chris Grayling now lauding it as a workable contingency - on what stands to be a daily basis. It wasn't designed for that and it wouldn't have worked anyway.
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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it could have to be used if reports ive seen, they reckon static traffic for 100 miles because of customs checks at dover
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Spot on botulism and I must add that Charlie is being incredibly hopeful in thinking that the Lorry park near Ashford will be built in time for groundhog day. The village has been split in two by a dual carriageway/motorway and I doubt that middle England will go quietly on this one. Be assured that representations to stop the trucks will force a lengthy public enquiry followed by a decision in court that will be appealed against with groups like CPRE throwing their weight behind the villagers.
If I lived there I would be up in arms too so bearing in mind how long the plans for building on Farthingloe have taken so far, any lorry park is very far in the future. Incidentally Brian refers to the Commons committee chair on the subject of 100 miles tailback which is not without foundation.
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Button- Location: Dover
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Gone are the days when you could do a Tyneham at the drop of a hat, it seems.
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Neil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
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A big day, yesterday. Government ended up with a self imposed defeat on the 'so called' impact assessment(s) publication. My instinct is that they are trying to hide the lack of any thorough analysis, rather than the results of such analysis, but perhaps we will see. Regardless, it hardly matters; if the news is bad, remainers will say "I told you so" and Brexiteers will say "Civil Service is undertaking Project Fear 3.6".
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