howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Captain Haddock wrote:For Heaven's sake, Brits have been living in Europe and Europeans in the UK long before the EU was even dreamed of. What we will 'miss' is unskilled/semi-skilled labour emigrating/immigrating.
Nearly right Bob I worked in a Freight Forwarders before we even joined the "Common Market" and about 50% of the staff were young chaps/chapesses from Germany, Holland, Switzerland and Austria because they were our main markets and our agents there liked to get their staff fluent in our language and way of working for their future promotion prospects. The same system happened in reverse to a lesser degree.
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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Interesting report on the UK 'Border' here by National Audit Office:-
https://www.nao.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/The-UK-border.pdfRoss Miller likes this
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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how much did that cost overall.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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will this be another high court farse with miss may's government paying legal costs again.
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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I must confess that I have very little time for Ms Millar (or indeed referenda).
I was reading the other day that 50% of the adult population only have the mathematical ability that one should expect of a child in the final year of primary school, so relying on the great unwashed to extrapolate on the various likely outcomes of Brexit/no-Brexit, and come to a reasoned decision one way or the other is, I suggest, a bit much to ask!
However, having had the referendum, we are where we are, and on balance I personally believe that Brexit was the better choice.
Ms Millar first came to wider public note, when she took HMG to court to ensure that the triggering of Article 50 was passed by parliament. Frankly, apart for constitutional lawyers, this was all a bit of a waste of time as the idea of NOT triggering Article 50 AFTER a referendum was unthinkable (?) - except for 114 of our MPs voted against who should hang their heads in shame - they might not like what they heard but in this case 'the people had spoken'.
Ms Millar with her latest ramblings is becoming a bit of a parody of herself, a bit like people who write in green ink to NASA asking about the Roswell incident, know that a second gunman killed JFK and saw Elvis down the chip-shop last week.
Her suspicion is that somewhere in the documents there is probably etc etc.
I also very much doubt if in her two divorces she would have given to the other party full details of her minimum demands nor information of how she was already planning a successful life ahead even if the divorce did not pan out as she planned.
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Neil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
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My money is on the reports not existing, hence the desire to keep them secret
Seriously, I seem to recall that the Government has a duty to publish impact assessments of all Government policy, but I guess they would argue that a no deal is not Government policy....
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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if reports don't exsist how can they be secret.
Neil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
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Better to be accused of keeping something secret, than being exposed as to have not done it in the first place.....
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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that's like shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted,. or putting it bluntly as much use as a chocolate fire guard.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Charlie seems to be the only one aware of the seriousness of the situation with less than a year and a half to go.
http://www.kentonline.co.uk/dover/news/kent-mp-urges-government-to-134271/howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Bit of a pointless bribe as most young people across Europe are not anti the EU as they have never known anything different.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/10/25/meps-hail-first-step-towards-annual15-billion-18th-birthday/John Buckley likes this
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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No real surprise there Brian, hardly a day goes by without that duo contradicting each other, whatever happened to team mates speaking to each other before making statements? The opposition are similarly split but are wise enough to keep differences away from the public eye whilst the Lib Dems are clearly of the opinion that they know better than us great unwashed and will carry on trying to scupper us leaving the EU.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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yes howard, we seem to have a house of clowns lately.
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