howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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The worst thought idea in the EU is that one member state can stop a decision by the other 26, we now have the Irish tea shop or whatever he calls himself threatening to veto any deal that doesn't meet his approval. A nation of less than 5 million effectively calling the shots over countries like Germany, France and the UK.
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Ross Miller
- Location: London Road, Dover
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They are all at it...
especially now they have the commitment to spend the money eh
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Shrewd move from David Davis today stating that he would resign on a point of principle if Damian Green gets the boot for watching porn on the work's computer. He has been looking for an escape route for a few months now.
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PatrickS
- Location: Marine Parade, Dover
- Registered: 19 Sep 2015
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Before the EU came to Rye and out the Market strode,
The dogged British people did stride our nations road,
A reeling road, a rolling road, that rambles round the land,
And after them did David run, Damian and T’resa too, happy band?
A united crowd, ‘long British roads, to hold the mighty dread
The night they went to Brussels by way of Beachy Head.
We know no harm in Bulldog and plenty to admire,
And for to fight the Union we did so much desire;
To bash their bargained mutters, across the seas so loud
To keep our rambling British ways, an English way so proud,
Where you and I can walk the lanes full ale-mugs in our hands,
The time we went to Brussels by way of Goodwin Sands (SOS permitting)
Their sins may be forgiven; so why not face the sum
Before too late; division looms, do let the blighters run,
So wild a claim, a score to start, then on to fifty plus
But where our rose now friends so rage to Irelands border fuss
So pardon us, and harden us; we do not have to fear
The time we bashed the Euro by way of ha’penny pier.
My friends we will not stray again or ape an ancient rage,
Or stretch the error we once made, EU folly, bygone age,
But walk with gladsome hearts and minds, a path we must regain
Keep to the left, the road signs say, from Dover to Coleraine,
For there is good news yet to hear and great thing to be sourced
When once again we stand as One – Our land again divorced.
with apologies to G K Chesterton
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Captain Haddock
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howard mcsweeney1 wrote:Shrewd move from David Davis today stating that he would resign on a point of principle if Damian Green gets the boot for watching porn on the work's computer. He has been looking for an escape route for a few months now.
So Labour wants Damian Green to resign for [U]allegedly[/U] having mucky pictures on his computer.
Keith Vaz cheated on his wife with two rent boys & offered to buy them cocaine.
He was elected to Labour's NEC.
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Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
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I fail to see what is wrong, ordinary porn is not illegal in this country unless we have suddenly gone puritanical.
I would be willing to bet those doing all the shouting have watched porn on the quiet.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Anyone caught downloading/watching porn on their firm's computer gets instant dismissal so how is it different in the House of Commons?
The initial allegations were of extreme porn, whatever that covers.
Brian Dixon
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- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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possably bondage of some sort howard, as if I would know.
John Buckley
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The initial allegations were of extreme porn, whatever that covers.[/QUOTE]
Could be anything of course Howard, but I guess naked guys wearing only a cowboy hat whilst cavorting with a damsel half dressed in a Chelsea FC kit?
Button
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- Registered: 22 Jul 2016
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"Anyone caught downloading/watching porn on their firm's computer gets instant dismissal so how is it different in the House of Commons?"
Ah, I can do that one! It's because I'M the employer and I'LL be the one to dismiss my MP, thank you!
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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Thank goodness the police only behave in this extraordinary fashion towards senior politicians they want to bring down, and certainly not to anyone else in Britain... perish the thought.
(And they ask why I never hand in my DDC IPad for its annual PAT test! Just saying.)
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Button- Location: Dover
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I always thought that the introduction of notebooks with numbered pages was a retrograde step, although prising the staples out was always a pain.
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
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#1205 “Persistent skills shortages have the potential to limit productivity, growth and innovation – all of which could harm the City’s ability to remain competitive on a global scale.” Makes you wonder why we allow our youngsters life chances to be so limited by having a knowledge-based education system rather than an adaptable skills based one; furthermore, why we allow the stymieing of our children's opportunities, through tuition fees, by only making it available to those with an affluent head-start.
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Just because you don't take an interest in politics doesn't mean that politics won't take an interest in you. PERICLES.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Courtesy of the Telegraph - Tory civil war on the cards.
Theresa May is heading towards a version of Brexit that effectively fails to withdraw Britain from the European Union, a former senior judge and an ex-leader of the Tories have warned Sir Richard Aikens, a Court of Appeal judge until 2015, told the Prime Minister that a proposed “compromise” on oversight by the European Court of Justice was “dangerous” and would be “tantamount to reversing the result of the 2016 referendum”. His warning comes amid a growing Cabinet row over the plans.
In an article for the Telegraph, Iain Duncan Smith, the former Conservative leader and one of the party’s most influential Eurosceptics, agrees with Sir Richard and warns that the move could lead to European judges overseeing trade disputes. Mrs May is facing mounting protests over the plans from within her Government, with Michael Gove and Boris Johnson understood to be among at least four senior ministers opposing the proposed offer to Brussels. Damian Green, her embattled First Secretary, is said to be pushing for the move, which senior Tories fear could be offered to the EU as soon as Monday, when the Prime Minister meets Jean-Claude Juncker, the President of the European Commission, ahead of a crunch Dec 14 summit of EU leaders.
The row, which threatens to explode into a backbench revolt, comes amid a war of words over potential concessions for Dublin ahead of a ruling at the summit about whether “sufficient progress” has been made in Brexit negotiations on three areas: the rights of EU citizens, a divorce bill, and Ireland. Under the plans for a “compromise” on citizens’ rights, the UK would offer Brussels an arrangement in which British judges are able to refer specific cases relating to EU citizens to the ECJ for a “binding interpretation”. Such cases would centre on points of law on which there had not already been clear rulings from the court. But on Saturday multiple government figures, together with Mr Duncan Smith, warned that the move could represent the “thin end of the wedge” and lead to ECJ rulings on other issues, including trade.
A Cabinet source said: “There is a massive question of where this would end.” Sir Richard, the president of Lawyers for Britain, which campaigned for a Leave vote in the referendum, raised similar concerns in a letter to Mrs May last week, a copy of which has been seen by this newspaper. “After the UK leaves the European Union, the rights of EU citizens in the UK … will be governed by a bilateral treaty between the UK and the EU,” he said. “I know of no instance in current international relations where a sovereign state that has entered into a treaty with another sovereign entity (such as the EU) has accepted as binding the rulings of the court .
Neil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
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I am quite looking forward to this Tory civil war we keep being promised. So far, the PM has seen off the right wing quite comfortably.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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You're right there Neil totally in control of her cabinet.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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I can't see how this would work in practice as it is hardly a simple matter. There will be many parts to it where people like some bits but dislike others and I seriously doubt that all aspects will be made available to the public rather like the actual divorce bill.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/britons-majority-in-favour-of-public-vote-on-final-brexit-deal-uk-politics-a8089161.htmlBrian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
two choices as I see it.
1/ cough up the dosh and have a sofr exit.
2/ stay in which would be cheaper and less humiliation.
