Captain Haddock
- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
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Disappointed with PMQs.
I was really hoping Corbyn would kick off with 'I've recently received an e-mail from Arlene in Belfast and she asks ............................'
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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It gets ever more surreal - today we have the PM ringing Arlene Foster trying to get her onside which is unlikely in the extreme after being betrayed then the Chancellor tells us that we will still pay the divorce bill even without a trade deal.
Neil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
- Posts: 1,295
Fantastic stuff. So, having originally caused an almighty parliamentary row to cover up the fact that his Department had done naff all by way of impact assessments, David Davis has now decided that the whole thing is such a farce, better to just fess up, put the tin hat on and hope for the best.
Regardless of which way you voted, British politics is now a complete shambles and whatever damage is caused by leaving the EU seems to be fine - it is all about dogmatic politics now.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Courtesy of News Thump.
A pair of British-born men have been identified as a clear and ongoing threat to the Prime Minister, intelligence services have confirmed. The public are warned to be on the lookout for the two, who MI6 describe as the biggest peril currently facing Theresa May.
Describing the pair as ‘desperate’, security chiefs said they had clear intelligence that either one of them could strike at any moment, but preferably when their victim’s back is turned and if they can make it look like it was someone else. “It’s uncertain which of the two is the mastermind – if either,” an MI6 source known only as SW told us. ”One, called Mike al-Gove appears to have been radicalised by growing up in Aberdeen and being a member of the EU. ”Whilst the other is a real Menace. He appears to have been radicalised by a constant need to get his leg over and reckoning he could pull more totty in Number Ten.
”Either one of these two presents a far more credible risk to the security of the Prime Minister than any other source, such as the leader of the opposition.” When asked if the men were known to the intelligence services, we were told “Well, they sit in on our briefings if that counts?”
Guest 1881- Registered: 16 Oct 2016
- Posts: 1,071
You know what? I'm getting the impression that David Davis is, like, winging it. Just sayin'.
Just because you don't take an interest in politics doesn't mean that politics won't take an interest in you. PERICLES.
Button
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 22 Jul 2016
- Posts: 3,028
My dear sir, Mr Davis is ad libbing his way to freedom. Planning is diabolically tricky and is what you do when going INTO Europe and usually means inventing pan-Europe institutions in order to keep the peace afterwards. We don't set Europe ablaze anymore, I thought that was obvious.
(Not my real name.)
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
Courtesy of the Telegraph
Jean-Claude Juncker fears Theresa May’s Government could collapse next week if Brexit talks remain deadlocked, The Telegraph has learnt. The European Commission president will extend the deadline for Mrs May to settle a dispute over the Irish border to the eve of an EU leaders’ summit next Thursday to maximise her chances of success. It comes as Mrs May’s own MPs warned her she could be toppled “within weeks” if she comes back from Brussels next week without an agreement that trade talks can begin.
Meanwhile, Leo Varadkar, the Irish prime minister, revealed on Wednesday night that Mrs May hoped to offer a new version of the Irish border agreement either later that night or on Thursday. The Irish border agreement - which would have meant the UK agreeing to "regulatory alignment" between Northern Ireland and the Republic to avoid a hard border - fell apart on Monday after the proposals were rejected by the Democratic Unionist Party (DUP.) However, Mr Varadkar revealed during a joint press conference in Dublin with Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte on Wednesday night that talks were now back on track following a phone call with the prime minister.
Irish leader Leo Varadkar says there is much less room to manoeuvre now in Brexit talks "Having consulted with people in London, she wants to come back to us with some text tonight or tomorrow," he continued. "I expressed my willingness to move forward as well... because I want us to move on to phase two [trade talks] if that is possible next week."Mr Varadkar and Mr Rutte made clear the EU would not compromise and allow the Irish border to be kicked down the road to phase two of the talks, even under threat of Britain crashing out with no deal or divorce negotiations dragging on to 2018.
Mr Rutte said they "will not loosen" their position on the "fundamental" points of citizens' rights, the exit bill and the border, adding that a hard Brexit would have an "infinitely" bigger impact on the UK than the EU. Downing Street said Mrs May, who also spoke with DUP leader Arlene Foster, told Mr Varadkar she was "working hard to find a specific solution to the unique circumstances in Northern Ireland" and was committed to "moving together to achieve a positive result on this".
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
yep here is a solution with draw the cash bribe she gave them.
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
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I find Ireland as irritating as Scotland,neither are much benefit to England or the UK if it comes to that, maybe we should get shot of both.
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Guest 1881- Registered: 16 Oct 2016
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Jan Higgins wrote:I find Ireland as irritating as Scotland,neither are much benefit to England or the UK if it comes to that, maybe we should get shot of both.
We don't rule Ireland; they are a sovereign state in their own right.
Just because you don't take an interest in politics doesn't mean that politics won't take an interest in you. PERICLES.
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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They (N I not Eire) still have MPs in our House of Commons and at the moment seem to be trying to dictate the UK's future with the rest of the EU.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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The PM has been given until Sunday night to sort out the Irish border which seems an impossibility now as both Len Verruca and Arlene Foster feel they have been betrayed by Cruella. I can't think of any deal that would satisfy both parties, Verruca wants a United Ireland in the near future and the DUP are acutely aware of this.
Reginald Barrington
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 17 Dec 2014
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Once May agrees to whatever Juncker has Demanded of her Len will be told to toe the line, they all know who's running the show!
Arte et Marte
Guest 2388- Registered: 12 Nov 2017
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time to get rid of the spinless May and Hammond, bring some adults into the room - let's have Mogg, Boris, Patel, Grayling, Raab and Nigel do the talking now -
Guest 2388- Registered: 12 Nov 2017
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Jan Higgins wrote:They (N I not Eire) still have MPs in our House of Commons and at the moment seem to be trying to dictate the UK's future with the rest of the EU.
good on the DUP, the only ones currently sticking up for the UK!
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
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The most sensible solution is of course for the bog totters in the South to rejoin the United Kingdom.
The only problem between us is that the Irish historically always back the losing side.
In the 1600s they plotted with the son of the decapitated Charles 1 and Oliver's Army had to pop over and give them a good slapping, and later they went on to back the deposed James 11 instead of King Billy. Bad call. Stupid decision. Long time ago. Get over it.
Matters have not been helped when unlike almost the entire planet, they stayed 'neutral' in the unpleasantness with Mr Hitler's Germany.
Leaving the EU would bring them all the advantages of Brexit and do away with any 'hard' border problems plus they would be in line for some of the massive outflow of aid which we've been sending to the top bit for centuries.
Think I might e-mail Theresa and cc to the Irish Teashop.
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Neil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
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So, we have progress! Who knows what difficult issues have been fudged/parked to inevitably come back later on, but at least there is progress of some sort.
PatrickS
- Location: Marine Parade, Dover
- Registered: 19 Sep 2015
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"A deal in Brussels is good news for Mrs May as we can now move on to the next stage of humiliation" Nigel Farage
This so called "Agreement" is just a form of words recited by both sides. What is still at issue is the contextual meaning given by each to "full alignment". Interpretations me thinks in the wings awaiting to scupper any final deal.
The EU have achieved realignment of focus with the Irish issue paramount consigning more important issues for the UK to the back room. By this means they have retained full control over BREXIT whereas the UK has gained little, if anything, and is still dancing to the others tune.
Look out for "out means out", "not half in, half out" that have far more meaning in my book than "Brexit means Brexit" that tells us 'ought.
The only achievement today is that the EU has so graciously agreed to move on to Phase 2 whilst tightening its grip on control over the UK after March 2019.
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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Oh dear. What a disappointment for all the naysayers. Looks like we've just surmounted another of those insurmountable obstacles to Brexit!
I wonder what the next 'problem' occupying the conversation of the chatterati will be?
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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The puppet masters from the EU have been setting the agenda since day 1 leaving our negotiators looking amateurish. In a short space of time we have gone from "you won't get nuffink out of us" to "here's 50 billion Euros, any chance of being nice to us?"
As far as I can ascertain people from Northern Ireland get freedom to move around the EU when they like and that is about it.
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