Neil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
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Just to pick up on Howard's point - under EU rules, the Member State which pays your state pension is also required to fund your healthcare, wherever you live in the EU. So, for UK State pensioners resident in Spain, the UK pays a lump sum, per pensioner, per year, to Spain - regardless of actual costs. The same is true in reverse. The rules are from the same Regulations which cover the EHIC - but it is not actually the EHIC which entitles them to that care if you see what I mean.
Reginald Barrington
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I think only a minority are pensioners most are abroad working and paying in to each countries taxes and NI.
I know a few people who live in Spain having taken early retirement and are shocked that they are being given a vote, there view is they emigrated and left Britain behind,.
Arte et Marte
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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I didn't know that about the lump sum Neil, something I have learned today. Getting back to your previous post it is very difficult for the NHS to police eligibility at the point of use. Sometimes a Spanish resident for example has kept their UK house or if they have been gone a few years they would still be on the computer, alternatively they can just give a false address.
Brian Dixon
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John Buckley
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For any forum readers that are still undecided which way to vote on the 23rd perhaps this fairly short video will be of assistance.
Hope that the link works!
Bob Whysman
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Good link JB my vote was posted last week!
Do nothing and nothing happens.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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The thing that most annoys me coming from the "Remain" side is the insistence that wages have not been squeezed by large scale immigration from the EU. Common sense tells us that when there are more people chasing each low wage job the pay rate suffers. Would be interesting to see the change of attitude if solicitors, chartered surveyors, accountants, dentists etc came in and offered to work at half the normal rate.
Bob Whysman- Registered: 23 Aug 2013
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Do nothing and nothing happens.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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The trouble is that nobody seems to know how many have been sent out erroneously.
Farage sounding very upbeat here.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/02/nigel-farage-forecasts-victory-for-the-leave-campaign-fuelled-by/howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Apparently Michael Gove came across well in front of an audience on Sky News this evening, not really surprised as I find him to be one of the rare breeds of politicians nowadays as he has an intellect.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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I wouldn't trust gove to sell me a brand new car let alone sell the uk down the swany
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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I think there will be a high turnout of the public voting on this one ,and I think the vote will go for coming out .I think this because it will be us the older ones that swing the vote for coming out because we know how the UK was run before we went in the EU . where most of the under 50years old only know of the UK being in the EU. And lot of the real young ones will not vote ,so I think we will be coming out .If that be the case the MPs are going to have to work for their wages in the big sort out.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Kinnock worrying about his pension and Labour concerned about not convincing their core voters.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36447926howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Definite swing happening to Brexit and immigration seems to be the reason.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jun/04/poll-eu-brexit-lead-opiniumNeil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
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As I have said elsewhere, the whole thing boils down to whether we allow our general xenophobia to trump all of the warning signs relating to every other area of debate. I just can't call it but on balance still think a low turn out will win the day for Brexit.
Interesting to read Paul Mason's tweet about whether or not the EU will pull a rabbit out of a hat on immigration at the 11th hour. They must know this was only ever about immigration (however (i)rrational) so if they can sort something out there it changes everything.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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According this 80% of people know the the economic impact of leaving the EU, good to hear because I haven't got a clue and I suspect most politicians and economists are the same if they were honest.
http://news.sky.com/story/1706958/fifth-in-dark-over-economic-impact-of-brexithoward mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Re; Neil's post I don't believe the EU can make any concessions as they would need to get the agreement of all the member states.
Captain Haddock
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As ever don't believe the hype and overestimate our importance to ANYONE outside the UK.
Just as last year, when on holiday in the West Country literally [U]nobody[/U] had heard about Operation Stack, I can assure you that, having read many of the European Papers, compared to serious stuff like the refugee crisis, terrorism, Eurozone crisis and wall to wall strikes in France, very few give a toss whether we stay in or get out.
"Shall we go, you and I, while we can? Through the transitive nightfall of diamonds"
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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yes mr haddock,its called not giving a monkys waggle.
Do nothing and nothing happens.