howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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People who matter like Juncker and Merkel are very concerned because who will pay extra to match the loss from the UK?
Eastern European states who may be worse affected are more concerned about taking in Muslims as part of their duty.
Captain Haddock
- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 7,923
Try looking at EU papers on-line
Der Spiegel Online
http://www.spiegel.de/international/ nothing in past 5 days.
Liberation Online
http://www.liberation.fr/ Zilch!
They write little and care less!
"Shall we go, you and I, while we can? Through the transitive nightfall of diamonds"
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 14,118
I think you must not take any notice of what they are saying just make up which way you going to vote and keep to it. Good luck.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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I think we will find if the vote is close other member states will be looking to hold a referendum of their own. Another poll today shows the out leading by 4% but the bookies are unmoved. Watched that interview with John Major in which he clearly seemed rattled.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Tomorrow is the cut off date for registering to vote.
https://www.gov.uk/register-to-voteGuest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 14,118
One word OUT
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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I feel like I've been stuck in the hold of a slave galley for the past few years, forced to row in a direction few of the crew planned to go in when we first set out, and shackled to a number of economic corpses.
"Shall we go, you and I, while we can? Through the transitive nightfall of diamonds"
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
Debate on ITV this evening 9 pm Farage v Cameron for lovers of glib comments.
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
I will give tonights a miss along Thursdays one.which reminds me of rainbow with the line up.boris is playing bungle,the others you can make your mind up your selfs.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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I see that a prominent Tory MP has left the leave campaign over the ridiculous assertion that 350 million quid a week could be spent on the NHS if we voted to leave the EU. The public are not that stupid to believe that politicians who previously have campaigned for cuts in all aspects of public spending care a jot about the health service.
Reginald Barrington
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 17 Dec 2014
- Posts: 3,227
Her argument for switching seems so lame that I suspect she is a plant and a few more leave campaigners will switch sides over the coming couple of weeks, just the sort of dirty tricks D.C. is into these days.
Arte et Marte
John Buckley
- Registered: 6 Oct 2013
- Posts: 615
Crikey Reg, we actually agree on something!
But you've got it in one I think.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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I wouldn't put much past slippery Dave but I don't think this is that sinister. The figures have been bouncing around since before the campaign started and nobody believed them. I just find it odd that she changed sides completely over one issue.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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PatrickS
- Location: Marine Parade, Dover
- Registered: 19 Sep 2015
- Posts: 448
I have 6 Rules on the Referendum. No use to anyone else of course, but I'll share them anyway.
1. Never believe what any politician or political activist tells you until you can verify any of their assertions to your own satisfaction.
2. You can't verify almost anything.
3. Do you want to continue to be ruled by unelected, unaccountable, and in most cases anonymous, persons who live outside the UK? The elected European Parliament cannot instigate most Legislation or Directives, only that which is referred to them by the unelected lot. Some see no problem with that, as we have the House of Lords.
4. Ignore virtually anything that is said by either side between now and 23 June. The PR machines on both sides will be working in overdrive and we can (as already stated in earlier posts) expect 'revelations' galore. Let them burst a cog rather than you.
5. Do vote, despite having insufficient real idea about the pros and cons. Almost half the voting population will disagree with the outcome anyway.
6. Forget all the hype and rhetoric - trust your first instincts, they're usually the right ones.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
Excellent post, the rubbish we have been hearing from both sides has not helped the undecided one iota. I am voting on gut reaction which has not changed since before a date was announced and I would urge others to do the same.
As an addendum today we had two ex Prime Ministers telling us that an out vote would endanger the Northern Ireland peace process!!!!
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
and Scotland getting indipendant.
ps,where did the leave campainge get the 350 million figure from,or is it just drival
Reginald Barrington- Location: Dover
- Registered: 17 Dec 2014
- Posts: 3,227
350 million is the weekly cost of eu membership, not counting the rebate that comes back to us, though we don't get to control what the rebate is spent on.
Arte et Marte
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
its more like 35 million a week reg,the leave persons cant there figures right.
