Neil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
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This is has long bothered me, that the Labour candidate is chosen last minute and doesn't have chance to build up any meaningful momentum (or the right sort). Ideally, we'd have somebody in place well before the election to hold Nathalie to account locally.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 14,118
She is called Dovers MP because like it or Not Dover is one of the major towns in the UK and the port is the same if you called her the Deal MP it would not make the papers of a headline but you are right she is also the Deal MP but as I said that would not be a headline.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Yes sir you are all so right what you say about the reds, but they shot themselfs over saying women only.
Weird Granny Slater
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 7 Jun 2017
- Posts: 3,002
Reginald Barrington wrote:From Charlottes home page:
"As a school governor, former teacher and mum..."
So she's no longer a mum?
An opening for a new government policy: mandatory Oxford commas.
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Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,856
Of course it's Dover and Deal .
Naterlie is there for as long as she wishes, sadly .
With the major opposition they rarely think through the bigger picture.
Look at the boundary changes for KCC elections
Instead of pushing for the bigger picture they submitted a plan to safeguard the tower Hamlets area that was already safe for them , whilst supporting moves to change drastically, and with little identity with each other this, and other areas .
I made a submission to keep the priory ward (this area) and got no mention even though boundary commission supported my views .
Yet the cllr and labour party was mentioned giving the same reasons that I gave for this area to remain and was given space in the report .
Not having a ready press officer to talk to the BBC
Instead wheeling out failed people is short sighted .
Supporting women only shortlists because it can't trust it's male members to vote fairly .
Internal battles now going on in the party on which direction it's going
All serve to keep Naterlie in place
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Button
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 22 Jul 2016
- Posts: 3,027
9 March (4.09pm) and the Lady's not for turning: "The levelling-up fund provides an opportunity to strengthen and diversify. We are an area rich in advanced manufacturing and biotechnology, and we are ambitious to be strong in digital skills and the green economy. Priority 1 status and a £150,000 award in the levelling-up fund will ensure that we can put together the best bid possible for a further £20 million investment in our area. That is on top of the millions of pounds already earmarked for our future high streets fund bid and our proposed White Cliffs border control facility. These important investments will attract further opportunities for new jobs, businesses and prosperity."
https://hansard.parliament.uk/Commons/2021-03-09/debates/507B79B1-90D6-4F98-9C06-886A53C6C00B/BudgetResolutionsAndEconomicSituation?highlight=proposed%20white%20cliffs#contribution-281C47C3-A146-4C1A-A268-88A5536D5AA1.
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
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She's there as long as she wants
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Button- Location: Dover
- Registered: 22 Jul 2016
- Posts: 3,027
Fame at last on today's I frontpage:
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Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 6,018
Ridiculous money.
Button- Location: Dover
- Registered: 22 Jul 2016
- Posts: 3,027
"It is extraordinary that France’s threats are treated as some sort of petulant gallic bluff and therefore acceptable. I’m sure it doesn’t feel like that to the people of Jersey. It didn’t feel like that in Dover last year when France closed the border unilaterally. Last Christmas’s unilateral action by the French saw our border closed, Dover and the surrounding area in gridlock, people stuck in days of queues. "
On the other hand: "Internal border controls are being reintroduced in six major European countries. We certainly don’t need reminding about the need for stronger European border controls here, as the number of migrants entering the UK illegally via France has now topped a staggering 20,000."
https://natalieelphicke.com/2021/11/10/strong-borders-and-good-neighbours/
Worth every penny, I'd say.
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Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,796
No mp should be allowed to have a second job. It is not as if they are on minimum wage, with their paid expenses and various perks being an mp is a nice cushy number.
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victor matcham- Registered: 5 Oct 2021
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Sorry but cannot agree with you on that one llots of the public have more then one job , even myself had 3 jobs at the same time yes working 7days aweek but with a family to bring up and I hadto have a car etc so needed the cash + at that time Ilike what I was doing.
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Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,796
Vic, I doubt even with three jobs you were earning anywhere near the equivalent kind of money our greedy mp and others get.
The basic annual salary for an MP from 1 April 2020 is £81,932. MPs also receive expenses to cover the costs of running an office, employing staff, having somewhere to live in London or their constituency, and travelling between Parliament and their constituency.
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Button- Location: Dover
- Registered: 22 Jul 2016
- Posts: 3,027
Well I had hoped that her second job would mean she didn't have time for inland border facilities or (when news was slack) articles about the French - look, we all know they're a rum lot (they eat snails for Pete's sake) but geography tells us they're not going anywhere anytime soon, so let's just drop it shall we. Unfortunately it doesn't seem to be working in her case.
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
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Your right Jan
There's a difference between us having two or three jobs to make ends meet
And an MP who gets a salary that is like a lottery win every year and a year after she finishes .
Plus pension and all the perks whilst she's there
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Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 6,018
Some posters just don’t get it do they . Most MP s are on a cushey number.Some just turn up for an important vote.They have staff who write their speeches etc.
Lots of families have to hold on to two jobs .My own Dad milk round in the morning. then driving a bus to pick up children from the local school back to their home villages in the afternoon. .Mother two or three cleaning jobs .Dont compare our MP who gets paid for extra work outside her MP duties.
No some posters haven’t grasped what the thread was about .
Plus parents having a vegetable garden all this.to make ends meet.
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
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So really Neil was I think attempting to hope his labour party can find a way to challenge Mrs Elphicke .
As unpopular as she was, and is
She doubled the majority over a labour candidate that clearly not many got behind .
I think quite a number of non voters view the local labour party officials much the same as those that presently run the Govt and local councils .
I have to say with the Govt being so unpopular at the time I expected a much closer result .
Obviously this was the wrong labour candidate , not helped by being parachuted in on a women only shortlist .
If you really wanted to lose the seat , they succeeded.
The problem now is the local labour party has all but disappeared ,
So we will be stuck with the likes of N Elphicke
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ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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I doubt that pleading poverty will garner him much sympathy from the electorate. Perhaps a rich Tory donor might help him out, a bit like Boris with his wallpaper and holiday homes.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
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But getting bk to Naterlie she must be really laughing at the opposition tearing itself apart
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