Button
- Location: Dover
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I see "our Kylie" is a fan of the late John Miles. I still have Rebel and Stranger in the City on vinyl. Can't claim to be a creative though.
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Brian Dixon
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she has a second job, as a naughty elf on the shelf. lol
Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
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She's there as long as she likes
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Button- Location: Dover
- Registered: 22 Jul 2016
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Given that Kylie was referred to as spineless on the 'One rule for them' thread, I was interested to see that her speech in the debate on the Medical Cannabis (Access) Bill - in which she was arguing for the removal of barriers to prescription on the NHS of medicinal cannabis - contained the following:
"The quality and effectiveness of medical cannabis in the few cases relating to epileptic children can be satisfied. It is obtained openly via private prescriptions through recognised channels. As I have said—and I emphasise this for Conservative Members in particular—that is lawful."
https://hansard.parliament.uk/Commons/2021-12-10/debates/3412378D-471C-4ED8-A315-73CA97C9A6DB/details#contribution-A23706AC-10EA-4BF2-88CC-BFBBE8FEB8FD (11.25 am).
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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She's there as long as she wants ..
No opposition to her
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Button- Location: Dover
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News (well, good news) being a bit slack, it must be time for a pop at the French?
"Not again! It’s absolutely vital that the French act more responsibly this year so we don’t see a repeat of the Christmas chaos caused by their unilateral border closures."
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Wonder what her view was of last night's result ?
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Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
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Keith Sansum1 wrote:Wonder what her view was of last night's result ?
She is another one who will loose her seat if as our spineless mp she has the nerve to stand again.
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Not if labour stands same candidate
And that's looking likely
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Button- Location: Dover
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Latest from Kylie: "...I have been pressing for the UK and France to work together to put a stop to the small boats before we see more fatalities. Joint patrols on French beaches and at sea would be a real step forward...
"Moreover, we already have joint border controls. French frontier police are based in Dover, while UK Border Force officers are in Calais under the Le Touquet Treaty. Joint patrols would simply be an extension of the co-operation that already takes place."
Interesting take (I thought) on the Treaty, followed by somewhat of a leap.
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ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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Keith Sansum1 wrote:Not if labour stands same candidate
And that's looking likely
If only they had selected you, Keith.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Havnt been anything to do with Labour for over 9 years
Stood against them here two years ago and defeated both main parties
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But have no interest in being involved
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Button- Location: Dover
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I'm beginning to think that this "spineless" tag is over-done; I commend her for securing the following debate on a pile of seriously sticky brown stuff coming to a port near you next September:
https://hansard.parliament.uk/Commons/2021-12-15/debates/C0F84B17-7B0E-4C2C-9C91-B3F1541121BE/details. It's very much well-worth a read - particularly the bit on taking fingerprints in Dover of outbound tourists. Once they've all got out of their cars, of course.
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Captain Haddock
- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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The quicker we tattoo a bar-code on everybodys foreheads the better I say.
If it works at Sainsburys self check-out surely it would work at the Port of Dover .............
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ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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Credit where it's due, she has summarised the impending pitfalls well. I'm still bemused by the further delays in sanitary and phytosanitary checks on incoming goods though. (Yes - I know it's a separate issue).
#194 You need an army of tatooists with uncommonly steady hands for the barcode solution to work
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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ray hutstone wrote:
#194 You need an army of tatooists with uncommonly steady hands for the barcode solution to work
But surely when Bill Gates and George Soros activate the microchip in the vaccine .....................? (Copyright Piers Corbyn)
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Pablo- Registered: 21 Mar 2018
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Aren’t there possibly microchips in tattoos? On a lighter note, there is a tattoo shop in my new town called Pain in the Art.
Neil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
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Thanks for posting this, Button. An interesting read
I noticed a common theme from the Minister's (Kevin Foster) response; that it's nothing to do with us. Best summed up with this line:
"Furthermore, on routes where juxtaposed controls are in operation, such as at the port of Dover, EES checks will be undertaken by French officers prior to departure from the UK."
This is definitely going to be one to watch very closely, and a sharp reminder that we have barely scratched the surface in our post Brexit world. I don't know about anyone else, but on the face of it - very large queues seem inevitable.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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But with a major opposition poor in content
Hardly a party looking to gain respect
As shown in the Cumbria by election
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Button- Location: Dover
- Registered: 22 Jul 2016
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I don't see this as a Brexit, Cumbrian (?) or party-political issue myself. I'm guessing that, words behind the scenes having got nowhere, she decided to let her exasperation play-out in public, for all the shruggy-shoulders it got her.
I think she should have stuck to the people controls: "The problem with the EES, to put it at its simplest, is that it has been designed for airports, by which I mean individual foot passengers. It has not been designed for people travelling in groups, it has not been designed for people travelling in vehicles and it has certainly not been designed for gateways operating juxtaposed controls." It clouded the issue to mention controls on goods, though the fact that she did suggests to me that perhaps the UK controls on exports are not yet done and dusted.
I don't know about the Treaty of Canterbury (and variants), but it does make me wonder about the future of the Treaty of Le Touquet (or at least juxtaposition).
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