Guest 2060- Registered: 19 Apr 2017
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All the soundbites have started..Word on the street,Red source{Heinz?} etc.
Speculation concerning well known councillors and Antony Hook .Things never change on the forum.
It will be a hard slog to June 8th.
Guest 1849- Registered: 12 Sep 2016
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Peter James wrote:All the soundbites have started..Word on the street,Red source{Heinz?} etc.
Speculation concerning well known councillors and Antony Hook .Things never change on the forum.
It will be a hard slog to June 8th.
Disagree Mr James it won't be a hard slog in Dover, Elphicke will win with an increased majority. The Lib Dems are wasting their time in a constituency that voted 65% Leave, 2 years ago they lost their deposit.
There'll be a few Labour people willing to have a go at it but I've no idea what the message will be.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Keith Bibby wrote:Word on the street is Farage in Dover .
Don't see it myself, in his own words before "Dover and Deal is a straight Labour/Tory contest". He might stand again in Thanet South but I don't really see the point.
Neil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
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So what would happen if Farage did stand in Dover and Deal? Do we think he would win? I guess Charlie and his like must all be desperately hoping it isn't their patch. South Thanet has to be the favorite.
The one thing that could hamper the Tories is if it starts to comes across as they are taking votes for granted. Voters hate being taken for granted. Also, recent history tells us that if voters generally do the opposite of popular wisdom - Brexit, Trump etc. The TV debates are a good example, an empty Chair in a TV studio will look ridiculous and smack of complacency.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Farage wouldn't stand a chance and he knows that Charlie has it nailed down.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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I think he would ,and if he had done it last time in Dover he would be a MP BY NOW our MP is not well liked ,because all the things he has said he done in Dover but in real all he done was have his photo taken ,it was some members of the public unpaid done the work.
Guest 1792- Registered: 2 Jul 2016
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Will vote for Charlie ,Never have or will vote for Labour especially a leader that has marched with Ira terrorists ,UKIP never got off the ground too much in party fighting not to mention crass comments against Women ,Farron doesn't like democracy if it goes against his beliefs ,The Greens ,Independents etc will never have a voice..Mrs May is the best one of the lot
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Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Yes I think the above has got it about right.I was only joking about standing again myself ,I do not have funds like I did when working anyway I am not voting anymore at 74 coming up to 75 they do not need my vote.But the blues will walk it.But I think I will not have the news on till after the May ,May Election..
Jan Higgins
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Anyone regardless of their age has no legitimate right to complain about anything involving politics if they do not vote.
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Keith Sansum1
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I think Charlie will win even though Leading Tories don';t like him, they would prefer to have a tory.
Jan you are correct but politics does come into everything w do every day of the week, but I do understand where your coming from.
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Captain Haddock
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Wherever Farage stands he will produce mischief and take everyone's eye away from the only real question - 'Who should govern?'
Thank God May has refused the recent craze for dumbing down with TV appearances in a special politicians version of Britain's Got Talent (sic).
Most grown-ups can cope with a Manifesto.
Farage should have gone straight to the House of Lords since like it or not he has almost single handedly changed the political narrative over the past 20 years, which is more than can be said for the ennobled barrow-boy made good Alan Sugar or Floella sodding Benjamin.
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Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Mrs Higgins you are right in what you say,but I am not voting because I am just not voting Nor do I buy news papers .
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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I have never been a great fan of TV debates too similar to "question Time" for my liking but a manifesto alone is not enough as very few people read them and what is not in one is more important than the actual contents. I suspect that Jezza could put Cruella to the sword in a one to one debate with no baying studio audience to ruin things.
Guest 2060- Registered: 19 Apr 2017
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Mr Little. Antony Hook may not make any appearance in Dover and Deal especially because LibDem Antony lives in Faversham and is a Faversham Town Councillor. Dizzy political heights for Mr.Hook?
Mr Matcham doesn't vote? ?Yet enjoyed standing as candidate for numerous parish councils?
Charlie maybe the favourite? His arrogance maybe his downfall.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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I think if Hook returns it will be just a paper candidate and no real threat.
Unlike Bob frost I think T May refusal to go for the live debate will take over the media and become a bigger problem for her over the coming days.
Charlies going to be hard to remove, because even though leding conservatives dislike him, they still get the voters out to vote for him
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Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Mr JAMES I have never I enjoyed it in fact sir ,I did not, I done it because I was hoping to help get things done,but as it turned out it was all a wast of time.
I was rubbish at the job but as the saying goes,"You cannot win them all."
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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at last post 77 speaks some sense
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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Keith Sansum1 wrote:
Unlike Bob frost I think T May refusal to go for the live debate will take over the media and become a bigger problem for her over the coming days.
Keith, you are so wrong, we are in the middle of another tectonic change in politics as when Thatcher and Blair got their huge majorities.
It's the end of the freely touchy liberal crap where we spend the whole of our time crying crocodile tears for poor kiddies (sic) and anyone who has a worse life than we have and worrying that anything we say might cause offence to some oppressed minority e.g. Wimmin in general, and as ever I was ahead of the curve.
Expect a manifesto of low tax, smaller state, reduced overseas aid, deportations in overdrive, work permits for EU citizens etc, and in general acting like nation state rather than outreach workers for the bloody Guardian.
In passing I am pleased to report from Spain that the Spanish having kicked the Moors out have no wish to have them returning with their primitive views on society! Any idea of all cultures having 'equal value' would rightly be laughed at.
As for having one of their so called religious leaders reading from the blasphemous Koran (it denies that Christ was crucified and rose from the dead, the USP of Christianity) in a Cathedral I suspect they would have lynched any Bishop giving such an invitation.
Meanwhile, according to the Evening Standard the Met have stopped a May-day celebration on 'security grounds' whilst allowing the Notting Hill stab fest to continue. You would have to have a heart of stone not to laugh!
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Bob;
much of what you say on the UK is what the country is fearing
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Paul Watkins- Location: Dover
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Well was Farage in town.?