ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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Captain Haddock wrote:Yes they are! (Remember almost 50% of people are of below average intelligence!)
Look at Thatcher. Put up taxes. Take on the unions. Put down taxes. Win election.
This year it's a quarter of a century since Labour under Blair beat a Conservative Government in power.
Now THAT's a Jubilee worth celebrating.
Speak for yourself. Post again after the forthcoming by-elections.
Captain Haddock
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What, not that "Go back to your constituencies and prepare for government" again?
Heard it all before.
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
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Keith Sansum1
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Who reckons he will lead the party Into the general election ?
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Neil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
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They can change the rules "in an afternoon", apparently, so Johnson certainly isn't safe in that respect. The two by elections are pivotal, as if he loses both, panic will set in as it would indicate nobody is safe.
I don't think he'll lead at the next election - simply because his popularity has fallen so much.
The trap I think they'll fall into is carrying on with nonsense. I'm not interested in how many times a day he speaks to President Zelensky - that's not a vision for the UK. I don't care about the sale of Channel 4. The Northern Ireland protocol stuff only plays to a very narrow audience. Until there's a vision for the majority - he'll remain in trouble.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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There are those blinded by him , thinking times should move on
It's about how big is that following across the country .
Polls out are saying people would prefer both leaders of labour and Tories are not trusted (giving little choice)
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Arthur- Registered: 18 Nov 2020
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He ought to be worried about those life-long Conservative voters who are stating that they will never vote Tory again whilst he’s in charge. I’ve never been politically active but will do my utmost to avoid our current MP being re-elected. As I’ve said many many times our area deserves so much better.
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Saw this on FB and had to smile!
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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The next two elections end of month could well decide his fate
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ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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All political careers end in defeat, Keith. Boris's has just been accelerated by the fact that he's a dishonest, self obsessed and incompetent twerp. The sooner he's gone, the better for the country.
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Not all Ray
But he looks awful on TV.
At least in the past he had a bit of a following
Now only those in his area of bring paid to support him remain .
He looks wounded as much as he tries.
Any normal person would think the times up
But he'd not looking normal lol
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ray hutstone wrote:All political careers end in defeat, Keith.
Delivering ignorance with condescension.
Who said the Left can't multitask?
'Pass the cow dung, my dropsy's killing me' - Heraclitus
ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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Weird Granny Slater wrote:Delivering ignorance with condescension.
Who said the Left can't multitask?
I feel mortally wounded.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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No wonder people don't vote .
Non voters must be a high figure now
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Button- Location: Dover
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From the BBC 'While the particular timing has surprised some in Downing Street, Lord Geidt's discomfort in the job has been evident for a while. Just last month he had said in a report that it was a legitimate question to ask if Boris Johnson had breached the ministerial code by breaking Covid laws.
But, as Lord Geidt put it, the code's "author and guardian" is Mr Johnson. The prime minister hadn't sought an investigation from Lord Geidt into whether he had, and was of the view that he hadn't.
Lord Geidt said: "I have attempted to avoid the independent adviser offering advice to a prime minister about a prime minister's obligations under his own ministerial code. If a prime minister's judgement is that there is nothing to investigate or no case to answer, he would be bound to reject any such advice, thus forcing the resignation of the independent adviser. Such a circular process could only risk placing the ministerial code in a place of ridicule."'
Can't say I follow that reasoning - what happened to speaking truth to power? Moreover, to stay silent means the PM can quite truthfully say "well, my independent adviser on ethics hasn't said I've broken the code".
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ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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Placed in an impossible position working for an habitual and pathological liar.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Second one to resign in 18 months tells its own story .
Im quite surprized the Tories have given up on the two upcoming elections .
.whilst labour SHOULD win Wakefield
In Tiverton Tories have over 20,000 majority be surorized if that one went lib Dems.
Although I'm hearing lab standing aside ?
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Neil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
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We all know that Johnson is a pathological liar. The question is whether or not you choose to accept it. Day by day, more people are choosing not to accept it. It ends with Johnson isolated as a lame duck PM with only Nadine Dorries, Pritti Patel and Suella Braverman supporting him as the rest abandon him to be part of the future.
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ray hutstone wrote:Placed in an impossible position working for an habitual and pathological liar.
I daresay he felt like that. My point, however, was rather that had it been me, I should have proffered the advice and stayed in the role. In fact, I did once tell my CEO in company that "I couldn't disagree [with you] more" - of course it helped (and credit to him) that afterwards we got on like a house on fire.
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ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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Downing Street having finally published his resignation letter, it's becoming slowly clearer. I note that he used the word 'odious' along with 'impossible'.
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ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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Telling it like it is.
