howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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i think that you might mean the "corporate reality analysis programme", usually known by its initials for purposes of brevity.
DT1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 15 Apr 2008
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A fairly ambiguous posting there Sue, I'm not sure whether you are saying that: you DT1 "don't understand". I'd like you to clarify this please.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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do try to be patient dt, susan will have to contact her bosses before she replies.
could be interesting though.
DT1- Location: Dover
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just to clarify: I don't elect individuals to 'understand for me' ...I can do that myself. I elect to 'represent for me', maybe I've got it all wrong?!
Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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Just to hark back for a moment to post #253. Mr Boland wasnt there because Mr Boland didnt know it was on. The first reference to it was a post by Nigel at 8.45 yesterday but I didnt see that one. It might have been good if one of the councillors had put up a thread on it say 6 or 7 days ago just to keep everyone informed. Its part of the duty of councillors to keep their voting public informed...I would have thought so anyway...seems a fair return.
Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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PaulB
A short email to you wouldn't have posed too much of a problem but that requires common sense and as me ol' Polish Pa used to say " the older you get the more you notice that common sense ain't all that common"
Marek
I think therefore I am (not a Tory supporter)
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Paul (B)
I guess I could have advised you and the Forumites that this site-meeting was on yesterday and that the public were invited to the public session at the Town Hall, but I never thought about it, nor obviously did anyone else who knew it was on - sorry.
I have tried so hard to show that I am open-minded on this, that it completely slipped my mind.
The decision on this will be made on Thursday evening's planning committee meeting, starting at 6pm.
Roger
Guest 660- Registered: 14 Mar 2008
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I went along after work and caught the tail end of 'The Mighty Sue' and 'The Mighty Nigel 'going head to head,funnily enough I only knew about it from the Forum,but I was in the Town Hall to see the staff as well.
If you knew what I know,we would both be in trouble!
Guest 648- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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The Screen will go ahead
Tories all voted for it All Labour councillors voted against .
Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Good news for Dover, not entirely convinced that the location is A1 but I beleive it is all scaremongering and that any noise will be no worse than already eminates from the Market Square on a normal day from the people, cars, buses, shops and pubs. There are strict guidelines on noise which I am sure will be met.....
Been nice knowing you :)
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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at last,a step forward for dover.
will find out the full break down of votes, people need to know the full facts, so that they know where to cast their vote next time.
the vote will send a message to potential investors that we are not a backward looking and ungrateful bunch.
Ross Miller
- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
- Posts: 3,696
Good news
As Howard says this is a small but positive step forward for the town
"Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die today." - James Dean
"Being deeply loved by someone gives you strength,
While loving someone deeply gives you courage" - Laozi
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Sue has given the breakdown Howard - the four Labour Councillors voted against it, the Conservatives (after much deliberations) voted for it.
Roger
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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interesting result roger.
it sounds like party lines were drawn, the leader of the labour party, mr beano, is a member here.
we would all be interested to hear from him the reasons that labour councillors voted against it.
it has been an emotional issue , i have no problem with individual councillors having a problem.
i have a big problem with it becoming a party issue.
on here we have had john g(labour) for it, susan(con) against it.
understandable, they must have their own reasons, when it came to the final and most important stage for the town,it comes across to plebs like me, that the members of the committee were told how to vote
Sue Nicholas- Location: river
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You can read between the lines but as a conservative councillor all i will say the Labour spokesperson did very well and stuck to planning policies .I have the greatest respect for him as he knew the rules .
I can at least hold my head up high as planning should never be political
I dont always agree with him on some issuies but he was a credit to those who voted for him .
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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did the labour spokesperson speak on behalf of the people of dover, or did he speak on the subject of finding a way of stopping something happening.?
if he made such a good case why did the result go along with party loyalties?
we need to know, so that in future, we can cast our votes at the ballot boxes in favour of the can do people.
Sue Nicholas- Location: river
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He spoke as any good councillor should on pure planning grounds .He was not happy as some of the emergency authorities were apposed .He wanted to know what plans had been put in place to overcome certain issuies .He felt like some of us me included that the process had been rushed .
The one councillor who actually lives in the town could talk with some authority on what it is like to live in the centre of town .When you think some of the committe live well outside of dover makes you think
They went for a five year temporary permission .The Labour chap wanted three years .
You ask the tories why they voted together ??It was strange as i was not asked to substitute for an absent member ??I have ten years planniong experience .
Ross Miller- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
- Posts: 3,696
Doesn't that tell you something Sue?
"Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die today." - James Dean
"Being deeply loved by someone gives you strength,
While loving someone deeply gives you courage" - Laozi
DT1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 15 Apr 2008
- Posts: 1,116
Sue, planning by it's very nature is political. You still haven't really adressed my previous points. You may have 10 years of sitting in on planning meetings but, with all due respect, it doesn't seem you have any more idea than any of the rest of us here. Perhaps you are more au fait with bureaucracy of the process, but I'm am still yet to here you say anything progressive or informed on the subject. OK so you like twee middle class areas like Tenterden, but what next? People return to riding around on horses? This is all about looking to the future!
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
sue,we must look forward no matter what, no good looking back to the past.if we did keep looking back to the past we would be living in the dark ages still.