Andy B
- Location: dover
- Registered: 10 Nov 2012
- Posts: 1,742
I,m sure this place had its opening on the day of the second lockdown.think it was reported of its short spell of trade on either Dover or Kentonline.
Karlos- Location: Dover
- Registered: 1 Oct 2012
- Posts: 2,489
Have been told that the landlord of The Chance passed away earlier this week.
Andy B- Location: dover
- Registered: 10 Nov 2012
- Posts: 1,742
I do wonder if our local pubs will be able to survive this lockdown.I attend many outdoor shows and events around the county and some traders that provide the outdoor bars in the beer tents have gone out of business.Although theres no events at this time of year there is very little bookings coming in for the year ahead due to the uncertainties.
Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,865
Few will
It will be quite different in coming months I think
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Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,809
It will be the small pubs and especially the rural ones that will have the major survival problems, at the moment everything is against them.
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Weird Granny Slater
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 7 Jun 2017
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Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,809
At the moment they will have a problem selling it as a pub.
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Andy B- Location: dover
- Registered: 10 Nov 2012
- Posts: 1,742
Remember going there with my dad when we first moved to Dover,had my first game of skittles there.Even when the pubs are running as normal,just the price of a pint alone is killing off the smaller pubs.
Karlos- Location: Dover
- Registered: 1 Oct 2012
- Posts: 2,489
Railway Bell planning application
20/00038 Railway Bell PH
120 London Road
River
CT16 3AD
Erection of 6 dwellings, DBR
change of use and
conversion of existing public
house into 6 self-contained
flats, amendment to existing
Kearsney Avenue vehicular
access, formation of
parking, creation of
pedestrian accesses to
London Road, closure of two
existing vehicular accesses
to London Road and
Kearsney Avenue
(readvertisement, amended
description, amended
drawings showing proposed
pedestrian crossing on
London Road west of the
junction with Alkham Road)
Guest 3130- Registered: 22 Feb 2019
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Boo.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,865
Shame that was a nice pub
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Karlos- Location: Dover
- Registered: 1 Oct 2012
- Posts: 2,489
Actually went inside a pub for a beer Sunday evening for the 1st time since March last year.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,865
Remember when Alf Bentley ex Dover manager ran the red lion !
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Karlos- Location: Dover
- Registered: 1 Oct 2012
- Posts: 2,489
Have heard recently that the brewery that owns the Bull is looking to sell it, and not with a future as a pub.
ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
- Posts: 2,158
Karlos wrote:Have heard recently that the brewery that owns the Bull is looking to sell it, and not with a future as a pub.
Wouldn't surprise me, Karl. Shame - one of the oldest hostelries in Dover. I assume you wouldn't have posted it without some degree of likelihood....?
Reginald Barrington
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 17 Dec 2014
- Posts: 3,234
That would be a shame, truly hope not.
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Karlos- Location: Dover
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Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,809
"But neighbours want it saved and revived as a pub for the community"
I wonder how many of those very few close neighbours used the place in the past, maybe only a couple of times a year if at all.
"Until recently it had been a community hub, hosting the local Sunday League football team, and various live bands and other entertainment for parishioners."
I bet those mentioned above now use a different pub possibly one of those that has now reopened.
"But the 34 letters also raised fears over extra traffic, the density of the development being too high, loss of privacy and light, pressure on infrastructure and need for more parking."
So the large area in front of the place was big enough for customers of a supposedly thriving pub but not big enough for the future flats inhabitants.
It is always a shame when pubs close but a thriving one that makes a reasonable profit will always stay open. We struggled for eight years to pay our bills with virtually no village support before battling to obtain conversion to a house from planning, we luckily won on appeal.
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Reginald Barrington- Location: Dover
- Registered: 17 Dec 2014
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The Railway Bell always had a lot of support locally unfortunately the last couple of landlords didn't care about the upkeep or look of the place. Torn and frayed carpets peeling and stained wallpaper, damaged upholstery and poorly maintained gardens and toilets. Not to mention the bar and food offerings.
Previous to that the pub was a thriving restuarant and music venue. It could have been a destination pub/restaurant with rooms, like the Marquis in Alkham but some people should not be allowed to hold the licence if they cannot get the obvious things right.
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Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,809
The big problem is there are only a certain number of pubs an area can cater for and still make a profit, many now drink at home and or have take-aways, sadly the footfall has dramatically fallen.
Were the last two landlords tenants or just temporary managers? The former put their own money in while a brewery appointed manager is just a stopgap and usually have little interest except getting their pay.
It is worth noting that the Marquis has no nearby competition and many years ago had a small fortune invested in it by the new owners, something breweries are now reluctant to do to a more rural pub.
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