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Neil Moors wrote:Far better to have a fatally wounded PM limping on, than a refreshed Tory party under new leadership.
I don't think I agree with that sentiment; I want my government of whatever hue to use the talents of the best personnel it has. Admittedly that would see an end to handing to Scotland's First Minister punchlines on a par with those of the Dowager Duchess of Grantham, but there you go.
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ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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Remember when Professor Neil Ferguson resigned on 6th May 2020 after he'd admitted visiting his girlfriend at her home?
Matt Hancock described his behaviour as "extraordinary". He said that "the rules were deadly serious and there for everyone".
He doesn't appear to have commented on the Downing St. parties yet. Hypocritical in the extreme and symptomatic of the worst in Johnson's appalling government.
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'Mr Rees-Mogg also continued his criticism of the Scottish Conservative leader, Douglas Ross, who has called for the prime minister's resignation. Mr Rees-Mogg dubbed the MSP and MP a "lightweight" on Wednesday, and said: "It seems to me that people who hold office ought to support the leader of the party, that is the honourable and proper thing to do."'
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-59981890
I'm sure Mrs May and the late Mrs Thatcher will be pleasantly surprised to hear that; in fact, why have a letterbox on the door of the 1922 Committee at all?
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Keith Sansum1
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I think Neil and I agree lol !!
The 1922 committee im sure are watching this very carefully , but will move when the time is right .
I do feel that from a conservative point of view has to be soon .
They cannot afford him being in place to long .
.but looking at bungling Boris he doesn't seemed to concerned about affects on party or wider community .
So may try to stick it out
But the 1922 committee I believe will step in
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ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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Quite hilarious really. I noticed that during a radio interview she attempted to defend Boris by describing his partygate apology as 'fulsome'. Apparently, she's a successful author. Presumably she doesn't have access to a dictionary though.
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They don't call her mad Nad for nothing. She's just the kind of Cabinet member who is only there for blind support for Johnsnon. He goes, she goes.
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According to ONS figures the rate of Downing Street parties is doubling every two days ................
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'...nothing that comes out of No 10 should be reported as fact.'
Agreed. Certainly not taken as fact here since about... 1997.
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If not involved with some of these parties Boris must have turned a blind eye, either that or he has no idea about what happens behind the doors of no.10.
The more that comes out about these parties and boozy meetings it must upset so many whose loved ones have died including the Queen.
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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He's no longer fit for purpose
That's not only my view .but also the view
Of Roger Gale MP
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Neil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
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Meanwhile, the Telegraph has either abandon him, or it is trying to flood the market with low level misdemeanors to try and dilute the Johnson specific ones.
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I think the 1922 committee will move soon to get him out
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Letter from Local MP and Conservative Association:-
On recent events - a joint statement to members from the Association Chairman Keith Single and Member of Parliament, Natalie Elphicke OBE MP
The Prime Minister has explained and apologised for his part in these events that have come to light. We think it is absolutely right that he should do so. Mrs Elphicke has said that she was shocked by the tone and content of the email about the ‘bring a bottle’ event. Let us both be clear, if Covid rules have been broken then they shouldn’t have been.
Turning to the culture of socialising and drinking in Parliament, in parts of the civil service and Government. It is time to modernise and change the old-fashioned way in which Parliament and Government sometimes operates. These are behaviours that have long stopped in other workplaces and it is high time that they stopped in Westminster too. The Prime Minister is reported to be looking at changes to the culture of Downing Street. That seems to us to be the right thing to do. Indeed, wider steps could be taken to modernise the culture and working practices of Parliament as a whole. This is a good time to look at all of those issues.
While events that have been reported are deeply disappointing, this is the Prime Minister who has got us out of Europe, who will tackle the small boats crossings and have strong borders, who has nursed the economy to be back on track as the fastest growing of the G7 economies and who has saved so many lives with the rapid development and deployment of the Covid vaccines.
We hope that we can move forward as a very strong and successful United Kingdom. This is the Prime Minister, and the Government, who can do that.
Best regards
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"...this is the Prime Minister who has got us out of Europe, who will tackle the small boats crossings and have strong borders, who has nursed the economy to be back on track as the fastest growing of the G7 economies and who has saved so many lives with the rapid development and deployment of the Covid vaccines."
I agree with her; with a Prime Minister who can and has done all that, who needs the rest of the cabinet? Get rid of them and give Mr Johnson a phone box and a range of capes. (Not sure he has rowed us out into the Atlantic out of Europe though.) Go Nat!
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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I think the disappointing part is she is still willing to stand by him, even after partygate .
There was as she says things he got right during the pandemic , and of course we shouldn't forget he got things wrong as well.
But just on this partygate Boris has been weakened by will find it hard to stay on, and the 1922 committee on sure will step in with conservative MPs
Writing in now with votes of no confidence .
Roger Gale Conservative MP has taken the step to write to the 1922 committee asking for them to remove him , calling him a dead man walking .
A least Mr Gale had the guts to come out and say what local people are saying .
Bungling Boris is looking Weaker every time he's seen so I'm sure the clocks ticking for him to be removed .
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ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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While events that have been reported are deeply disappointing, this is the Prime Minister who has got us out of Europe, who will tackle the small boats crossings and have strong borders, who has nursed the economy to be back on track as the fastest growing of the G7 economies and who has saved so many lives with the rapid development and deployment of the Covid vaccines.
I would expect nothing else from our Natalie. She's a craven, obsequious politician even by this government's level of sycophancy.
Got us out of Europe - yes. Based on a flimsy tissue of lies and misrepresentation. And we're still counting the cost. Ask the farmers, fishermen, maufacturing sector....
Will tackle the small boats crossings? Whatever you may think of the refugee situation, the Johnson government has failed abjectly to make any progress whatsoever. Do I really need to list all the broken promises about making the route unviable?
Strong borders? We still haven't implemented those checks necessitated by our departure from the single market and EU.
Fastest growing economy in the G7? Yes, but from a position of the greatest downturn. Blatant misrepresentation of the real economic situation we find ourselves in.
Saved so many lives? The vaccine roll out was a tour de force by the NHS. But it came after we experienced the highest death rate per capita in Europe.
She is just like Laughing Boy, expecting to be able to take us all for fools.
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Neil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
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That's pathetic, but not surprising. Natalie appears easily pleased. Most of us have higher standards and expectations, I would suggest.
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I think the trouble with Natalie is she does not seem able or competent enough to think for herself, she is completely useless and there just to make up the numbers.
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