Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
oh the new anthem.
Bob Whysman
- Registered: 23 Aug 2013
- Posts: 1,932
The EU Referendum.
The votes are all in, the referendum 'results' we will soon hear,
Are they being counted in Paris, Amsterdam or Cologne?
For impartiality of course, they should be honest and clear,
Perhaps the result is already decided, we're in the European zone.
"I've heard that we're out," Boris said, "So I'm content,"
"I'm going to London on my bike to view number ten,
First a grand tour of Europe, where I'll live in a tent,
Then back to a reformed Great Britain, to be free again!"
There was nothing to gain by leaving, Dave said to us all,
Then George waded in with how the country would lose,
So why have the referendum if he knows the UK would fall,
Have they just lost their way and so they asked us to choose?
The Europeans and politicians care for this country? Not a toss,
They care for themselves and their positions of power,
Whatever happens, the result will surely be the peasants loss,
They patronise us, tax us and drive our living standards lower.
You slurp your beer; expensive wine and champagne they quaff,
Whilst you bail out their chums in the big houses and bankers,
You've had your chance to vote, to say enough is enough,
Despite this, the government's choice may still produce rancour.
The campaign has been conducted with many lies generating hate,
Both sides, including Messrs Cameron, Osborne, Farage and Gove,
Extolling the virtues of the chosen route they say we should take,
Blatantly weaving a web of deceit in pursuit of a life that they love.
Whilst the vicious referendum fiasco has been taking place,
The world seems to have taken it's eye off others dire plight,
With the build up of weapons, armies moving covertly apace,
The impending dangers not heeded, out of mind out of sight?
Religious conflicts never ending, bailouts, tyranny and greed,
Innocent children, in danger, bombed out, fleeing under duress,
For many, the time has passed to get the help that they need,
Sadly, mankind's insatiable self interest has left the world in a mess.
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Do nothing and nothing happens.
Guest 943- Registered: 15 May 2013
- Posts: 449
Good Morning. The voting figures for the Dover area are.....Leave 40,410........Remain 24,606.
Over 65,000 votes cast.
Turnout 76.5%
Goodnight and Good Morning from Peter Ripley Designated Counting Agent for Vote Leave
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Reginald Barrington
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 17 Dec 2014
- Posts: 3,227
Now we can sit back and watch the EU implode, should be quite a show
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Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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Dutch PM is already calling for a referendum in NL.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Reginald Barrington- Location: Dover
- Registered: 17 Dec 2014
- Posts: 3,227
Sweden and Denmark muting the same sentiments! Should be quite a show.
Arte et Marte
Reginald Barrington- Location: Dover
- Registered: 17 Dec 2014
- Posts: 3,227
Cameron will resign at some point in future and won't invoke article 50. I'll be surprised if he survives more than a few days.
Arte et Marte
Reginald Barrington- Location: Dover
- Registered: 17 Dec 2014
- Posts: 3,227
Osborne gone by lunchtime?
Arte et Marte
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
Dave has announced that he will stand down in October, should be an interesting leadership challenge.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
All the runners and riders courtesy of William Hill.
4/5
Boris Johnson
3/1
Theresa May
5/1
Michael Gove
10/1
Andrea Leadsom
16/1
Priti Patel
16/1
Stephen Crabb
20/1
Chris Grayling
20/1
George Osborne
20/1
Phillip Hammond
20/1
Sajid Javid
25/1
Amber Rudd
25/1
Dominic Raab
25/1
Graham Brady
25/1
Liam Fox
25/1
Ruth Davidson
33/1
Jacob Rees-Mogg
33/1
Jeremy Hunt
33/1
Liz Truss
33/1
Nicky Morgan
33/1
Penny Mordaunt
33/1
Theresa Villiers
40/1
David Davis
40/1
Matthew Hancock
50/1
Iain Duncan Smith
50/1
Jesse Norman
50/1
Justine Greening
50/1
Mark Harper
50/1
Michael Fallon
50/1
Nick Boles
50/1
Nick Herbert
50/1
Owen Paterson
50/1
Robert Halfon
66/1
Anna Soubry
66/1
Ed Vaizey
66/1
Rory Stewart
100/1
Daniel Hannan
100/1
Maria Miller
Bob Whysman- Registered: 23 Aug 2013
- Posts: 1,932
Strange that they have missed off Alex Salmon or will he go back over the border when the Scots achieve their Independence as Nicola Sturgeon is hellbent on achieving?
At least Angela Merkel doesn't feature on the hopefuls list anymore.
Do nothing and nothing happens.
PatrickS
- Location: Marine Parade, Dover
- Registered: 19 Sep 2015
- Posts: 448
Perhaps it is now time to bring European Nations that are also considering OUT to come together in a new free trading area. Just off the top of my head, as a completely new and innovative idea, we could call it EFTA.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
After the conspiracy theories of yesterday we now have people worrying about shortages in the shops caused by us leaving!!
Funny how nobody starved to death prior to us joining.
Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 6,018
Brought up on rations in those days there was no waste We all learnt to sew and evenings were spent sewing and knitting.Onlybasics in the larder.None of this double packing on everything and ugly potatoes and fruit were eatenPresents were not wrapped in beautiful paper.rMy grand children were amazed when I said we had to be careful with pencils and not sharpen them unnecessarily.Books were looked after and hardbacks covered
If it means hardship for a time we will gain in the end and learn the value of everything .Things have to be earnt whether it's respect or learning to wait.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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I was thinking just before 1973 Sue when the shops were brimming with goodies much the same as now.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
Back to the question of who will be the heir to Dave. Can't see Boris being chosen as it is MP's that do the choosing unless things have changed. Gove said he had no interest in it and poor old George is a laughing stock at the moment. My guess is that Theresa May will get the job of putting the party back together again, she has been very careful throughout her career not to upset one wing or the other in her party and especially so over the referendum - I cannot remember her making much of a statement the whole campaign.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
seeing that above reminds me of a story on this evenings tea time news.miss sturgeon wants another in/out scotish referendum,and now northan Ireland are thinking about leaving the uk as well
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
Yet another great article from the Grauniad but i doubt that our betters will not be impressed, much more interested with talking at people rather than listening.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/commentisfree/2016/jun/24/divided-britain-brexit-money-class-inequality-westminsterPaul Watkins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 9 Nov 2011
- Posts: 2,225
The one group that have shouted most about Leaving the EU & how the older age groups have stolen their futures is the young.
Yet when you analyse how concerned they were about their futures they were not concerned enough to go out & vote or use a postal vote.
Only 25-27 per cent of 18-24 yr olds voted & the next age group to 35yrs were not much better.
Of the age groups suffering unemployment in the EU the young have the highest figure some as high as 50 per cent.
Strange logic.