Keith Sansum1
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Jan
I think your correct , and all those yesterday shouting there are bigger issues to also be considered are right.
But first we need to sort out does anyone still have confidence in the PM to sort out these wider issues .
Your correct Jan people won't forget nor should they
But whilst he may tinker with the present system he had never said he will change his ways which really gets to the bottom of all of this .
We now see the open warfare starting with the Tonbridge MP throwing his hat in the ring for any leadership election.
Teresa May as good as calling the PM a liar and she list faith in him (if looks could kill lol)
And a few others like the supporter of his that helped to get him into number 10 and at that time solidly supporting him using the words yesterday that the PM no longer has his support .
Whilst this may not be enough to bring him down yet, the country is limping along with a badly wounded leader , the longer it goes on the worse it will get, whilst the country suffers .
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Weird Granny Slater
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'Thankfully I've had my three jabs and will be working from home while I isolate.'
is the new
'I have full confidence in the PM and his policies.'
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Neil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
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Weird Granny Slater wrote:'Thankfully I've had my three jabs and will be working from home while I isolate.'
is the new
'I have full confidence in the PM and his policies.'
So true. Anyone who is any good will put distance between themselves and the PM.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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We agree Neil !
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ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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Meanwhile we could look over the Channel to see what taking back control could really mean.
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Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
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'Taking back control' would be having a national energy policy that wasn't dependent on imports and ideological unicorns such as 'net zero' and 'renewables', the policy kicked off by Miliband and followed by all LabGreen governments (including Conservative ones) ever since.
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Captain Haddock
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Weird Granny Slater wrote:'Taking back control' would be having a national energy policy that wasn't dependent on imports and ideological unicorns such as 'net zero' and 'renewables', the policy kicked off by Miliband and followed by all LabGreen governments (including Conservative ones) ever since.
Plus investing in nuclear power (c.20yrs to come on stream), retention and expansion of LPG and North Sea Gas storage facilities, further exploration of North Sea gas fields and fracking would all have made us less dependent on energy importation and spikes in global prices.
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Button
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Captain Haddock wrote:Plus investing in nuclear power (c.20yrs to come on stream), retention and expansion of LPG and North Sea Gas storage facilities, further exploration of North Sea gas fields and fracking would all have made us less dependent on energy importation and spikes in global prices.
To continue the off-piste train of thought, I hadn't realised that natural gas needed storage (I imagined it just came out of the pipe when I turned the tap on), but I did realise that the increase in wholesale prices meant that Mr Sunak is collecting rather more in VAT than before. From us, that is, but not from the gas that is exported zero-rated for VAT
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10455627/UK-gas-exports-double-year-millions-British-families-face-soaring-bills.html.
So, how about (now that we've taken back fiscal control)
not zero-rating exports of this particular commodity?
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victor matcham- Registered: 5 Oct 2021
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I went on a fix rate in the new year for 3 years, I have been going on a fixed over a few years now and the cost of doing that was well worth it ,they now cannot put my rate up for the next 3 years.
ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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Weird Granny Slater wrote:'Taking back control' would be having a national energy policy that wasn't dependent on imports and ideological unicorns such as 'net zero' and 'renewables', the policy kicked off by Miliband and followed by all LabGreen governments (including Conservative ones) ever since.
Reminds me somewhat of Kodak a few years back. World leaders in a massive field. But then, digital? No. Not for us. People will continue to love getting films developed. And what happened to them?
If you think net zero and renewables are ideologocal unicorns, you really haven't been paying attention to either science or the world around you, my friend.
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ray hutstone wrote:If you think net zero and renewables are ideologocal unicorns, you really haven't been paying attention to either science or the world around you, my friend.
Apologies, RH. I expect an invitation to a secure re-education centre soon.
To reduce my sentence I'll be mainly eating the Guardian, Sky and the BBC.
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victor matcham wrote:I went on a fix rate in the new year for 3 years, I have been going on a fixed over a few years now and the cost of doing that was well worth it ,they now cannot put my rate up for the next 3 years.
Top Tip - if you are cash rich and do not have a smart meter, next time you send in a meter reading send in an inflated figure so you are payning for gas/electricity you have not yet used at a cheap rate. Reduce future readings over time until you reach true meter reading. This way your future bill with high priced energy will be heavily reduced.
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Button- Location: Dover
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Captain Haddock wrote:It's complicated ..................
(Link to WTO document)
Thank you for that - honestly!
OK, so there are consequences to market intervention which can be overlooked; indeed, to non-intervention also - eg. the increase in gas prices for UK consumers produces a welcome stimulation to the loft insulation and sheep -farming industries. However, when I read 'the literature on optimal export taxation argues that if domestic firms are perfectly competitive in the domestic market the optimal export tax is equal to the inverse of the absolute value of the world price elasticity of export demand for the commodity concerned ', I thought of paralysis by analysis and that the author ought to get out more.
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Is taking back control like France an option
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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France currently depends on nuclear plants to supply about 70% of its electricity and French President Emmanuel Macron has unveiled plans to double down on its use as a transition fuel with promises to invest in small-reactor technology and mass production of hydrogen using nuclear electricity.
Expect French prices to be kept unrealistically low until after Presidential Election in May.
In passing before some idiot calls for a 'one of' raid on Oil/Gas Company profits, please note that most investment in them is from Pension Funds, including UK local government pensions which held £9.7 billion of investments in fossil fuel companies in the 2019/20 financial year.
UK pension funds have an estimated £128 billion invested in fossil fuels, equivalent to nearly £2,000 for every person in the UK
The 4 local authority pension funds with the largest investments in fossil fuel are Greater Manchester, Strathclyde, West Yorkshire, and West Midlands. Together, these funds account for nearly 25% of all fossil fuel investments held by local authorities in the UK.
Any 'one of' raid on their profits is a one of raid on peoples pensions.
Be careful what you wish for ............................
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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And so the answer is Bob?
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ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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The answer is, when we need a new nuclear plant in the UK, we call on EDF to build it! And they then sub-contract to the Chinese for cheap labour. Got that one right, didn't we?
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Keith Sansum1 wrote:And so the answer is Bob?
Thermal underwear and a quick trip to Oxfam for a couple of thick pullovers.
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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We have do many issues and problems and lack of accountability
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